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Received: from willy by bombadil.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1gUb1l-00088G-HT; Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:32:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:32:01 -0800 From: Matthew Wilcox To: David Hildenbrand Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 7/7] mm: better document PG_reserved Message-ID: <20181205173201.GA11646@bombadil.infradead.org> References: <20181205122851.5891-1-david@redhat.com> <20181205122851.5891-8-david@redhat.com> <20181205143510.GA17232@bombadil.infradead.org> <46d0e90f-f0bb-815e-7a5b-4429de1c502a@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46d0e90f-f0bb-815e-7a5b-4429de1c502a@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko , yi.z.zhang@linux.intel.com, Stephen Rothwell , Alexander Duyck , Dan Williams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Tatashin , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, Miles Chen , Anthony Yznaga , linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Andrew Morton , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 04:05:12PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: > On 05.12.18 15:35, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 01:28:51PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote: > >> I don't see a reason why we have to document "Some of them might not even > >> exist". If there is a user, we should document it. E.g. for balloon > >> drivers we now use PG_offline to indicate that a page might currently > >> not be backed by memory in the hypervisor. And that is independent from > >> PG_reserved. > > > > I think you're confused by the meaning of "some of them might not even > > exist". What this means is that there might not be memory there; maybe > > writes to that memory will be discarded, or maybe they'll cause a machine > > check. Maybe reads will return ~0, or 0, or cause a machine check. > > We just don't know what's there, and we shouldn't try touching the memory. > > If there are users, let's document it. And I need more details for that :) > > 1. machine check: if there is a HW error, we set PG_hwpoison (except > ia64 MCA, see the list) > > 2. Writes to that memory will be discarded > > Who is the user of that? When will we have such pages right now? > > 3. Reads will return ~0, / 0? > > I think this is a special case of e.g. x86? But where do we have that, > are there any user? When there are gaps in the physical memory. As in, if you put that physical address on the bus (or in a packet), no device will respond to it. Look: 00000000-00000fff : Reserved 00001000-00057fff : System RAM 00058000-00058fff : Reserved 00059000-0009dfff : System RAM 0009e000-000fffff : Reserved Those examples I gave are examples of how various different architectures respond to "no device responded to this memory access".