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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Suraj Jitindar Singh <sjitindarsingh@gmail.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 18:23:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190602232330.GN31586@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43f037c57eed8ad2175470c940917dced947bb70.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

Hi!

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:03:26AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-05-30 at 14:37 -0500, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 05:09:06PM +1000, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
> > > so, it is sort-of nack from David and sort-of ack from Segher, what
> > > happens now?
> > 
> > Maybe what we really need just a CI call to get all properties of a node
> > at once?  Will that speed up things enough?
> > 
> > That way you need no change at all in lifetime of properties and how they
> > are used, etc.; just a client getting the properties is a lot faster.
> 
> Hrm... if we're going to create a new interface, let's go for what we
> need.
> 
> What we need is the FDT. It's a rather ubiquitous thing these days, it
> makes sense to have a way to fetch an FDT directly from FW.

That is all you need if you do not want to use OF at all.

If you *do* want to keep having an Open Firmware, what we want or need
is a faster way to walk huge device trees.

> There is no use for the "fetch all properties" cases other than
> building an FDT that any of us can think of, and it would create a more
> complicated interface than just "fetch an FDT".

It is a simple way to speed up fetching the device tree enormously,
without needing big changes to either OF or the clients using it -- not
in the code, but importantly also not conceptually: everything works just
as before, just a lot faster.

> So I go for the simple one and agree with Alexey's idea.

When dealing with a whole device tree you have to know about the various
dynamically generated nodes and props, and handle each appropriately.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-02 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-01  3:42 [PATCH kernel] prom_init: Fetch flatten device tree from the system firmware Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-02  4:27 ` David Gibson
2019-05-03  0:10   ` Stewart Smith
2019-05-03  2:35     ` David Gibson
2019-05-06  2:21       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-03 15:35     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-03 15:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-30  7:09 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-05-30 19:37   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-31  1:03     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-02 23:23       ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-06-03  2:56         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2019-06-03 21:18           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-03 23:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04  0:32               ` David Gibson
2019-06-03 23:42           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-06-04  0:18             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-06-04  5:00             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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