From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86899C7618F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17A122173B for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:40:26 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 17A122173B Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45pg0l5ZSczDqQw for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:40:23 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=permerror (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=kernel.crashing.org (client-ip=63.228.1.57; helo=gate.crashing.org; envelope-from=segher@kernel.crashing.org; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45pfyT3QwZzDqN2 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2019 00:38:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from gate.crashing.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x6HEcEwG003587; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:38:14 -0500 Received: (from segher@localhost) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id x6HEcCZK003586; Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:38:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: gate.crashing.org: segher set sender to segher@kernel.crashing.org using -f Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:38:11 -0500 From: Segher Boessenkool To: Michael Ellerman Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: remove meaningless KBUILD_ARFLAGS addition Message-ID: <20190717143811.GL20882@gate.crashing.org> References: <20190713032106.8509-1-yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> <20190713124744.GS14074@gate.crashing.org> <20190713131642.GU14074@gate.crashing.org> <20190713235430.GZ14074@gate.crashing.org> <87v9w393r5.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> <20190715072959.GB20882@gate.crashing.org> <87pnma89ak.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87pnma89ak.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Stephen Rothwell , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Nicholas Piggin , Masahiro Yamada , Paul Mackerras , linuxppc-dev Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:15:47PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote: > Segher Boessenkool writes: > And it's definitely calling ar with no flags, eg: > > rm -f init/built-in.a; powerpc-linux-ar rcSTPD init/built-in.a init/main.o init/version.o init/do_mounts.o init/do_mounts_rd.o init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/do_mounts_md.o init/initramfs.o init/init_task.o This uses thin archives. Those will work fine. The failing case was empty files IIRC, stuff created from no inputs. > So presumably at some point ar learnt to cope with objects that don't > match its default? (how do I ask it what its default is?) The first supported target in the --help list is the default, I think? $ powerpc-linux-ar --help [...] powerpc-linux-ar: supported targets: elf32-powerpc aixcoff-rs6000 elf32-powerpcle ppcboot elf64-powerpc elf64-powerpcle elf64-little elf64-big elf32-little elf32-big plugin srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex $ powerpc64-linux-ar --help [...] powerpc64-linux-ar: supported targets: elf64-powerpc elf64-powerpcle elf32-powerpc elf32-powerpcle aixcoff-rs6000 aixcoff64-rs6000 aix5coff64-rs6000 elf64-little elf64-big elf32-little elf32-big plugin srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex $ powerpc64le-linux-ar --help [...] powerpc64le-linux-ar: supported targets: elf64-powerpcle elf64-powerpc elf32-powerpcle elf32-powerpc aixcoff-rs6000 aixcoff64-rs6000 aix5coff64-rs6000 elf64-little elf64-big elf32-little elf32-big plugin srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex $ powerpcle-linux-ar --help [...] powerpcle-linux-ar: supported targets: elf32-powerpcle aixcoff-rs6000 elf32-powerpc ppcboot elf64-powerpc elf64-powerpcle elf64-little elf64-big elf32-little elf32-big plugin srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex > > Then again, does that work at *all* nowadays? Do we even consider that > > important, *should* it work? > > Yes and yes. There were a lot of bugs in the kernel makefiles after we > added LE support which prevented a biarch/biendian compiler from working. > But now it does work and we want it to keep working because it means you > can have a single compiler for building 32-bit, 64-bit BE & 64-bit LE. Good to hear :-) Segher