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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>
Cc: Santosh Sivaraj <santosh@fossix.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/vdso64: inline __get_datapage()
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 07:15:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190821121517.GD31406@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7cc5d77-dfca-1cf7-f316-636a4f603b04@c-s.fr>

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 01:50:52PM +0200, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 21/08/2019 à 13:44, Segher Boessenkool a écrit :
> >Calls are cheap, in principle...  It is the LR stuff that can make it
> >slower on some cores, and a lot of calling sequence stuff may have
> >considerable overhead of course.
> 
> On an 8xx, a taken branch is 2 cycles and a non taken branch in 1 cycle 
> (+ the refetch if that was not the anticipate branch).

Yup.  And on the big cores they are all 0 cycles, if correctly predicted.
(Taken branches end your fetch group, of course, there are small
inefficiencies everywhere, but that's about the gist of it).

> >>+.macro get_datapage ptr, tmp
> >>+	bcl	20,31,888f
> >>+888:
> >>+	mflr	\ptr
> >>+	addi	\ptr, \ptr, __kernel_datapage_offset - 888b
> >>+	lwz	\tmp, 0(\ptr)
> >>+	add	\ptr, \tmp, \ptr
> >>+.endm
> >
> >(You can just write that as
> >	bcl 20,31,$+4
> >	mflr \ptr
> >etc.  Useless labels are useless :-) )
> 
> Nice trick. Will use that.

Or .+4 if you like that syntax better...  It's all the same thing.

> >One thing you might want to do to improve performance is to do this without
> >the bcl etc., because you cannot really hide the LR latency of that.  But
> >that isn't very many ns either...  Superscalar helps, OoO helps, but it is
> >mostly just that >100MHz helps ;-)
> 
> Good idea. Did you have a look at my vdso32 similar patch ? 
> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1148274/

Yes, I saw it.

> Do you have any idea on how to avoid that bcl/mflr stuff ?

Do a load from some fixed address?  Maybe an absolute address, even?
lwz r3,-12344(0)  or similar (that address is in kernel space...)

There aren't many options, and certainly not many *good* options!


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-16 14:48 [PATCH] powerpc/vdso32: inline __get_datapage() Christophe Leroy
2019-08-21  4:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2019-08-21  9:29   ` [PATCH] powerpc/vdso64: " Santosh Sivaraj
2019-08-21  9:46     ` Christophe Leroy
2019-08-21 11:20       ` Santosh Sivaraj
2019-08-21 15:58       ` Nathan Lynch
2019-08-21 11:44     ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-08-21 11:50       ` Christophe Leroy
2019-08-21 12:15         ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2019-08-21 16:23           ` Christophe Leroy
2019-08-22 16:18             ` Santosh Sivaraj

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