From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995A7C3A59E for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [203.11.71.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26A54217F4 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 13:04:14 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 26A54217F4 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Received: from bilbo.ozlabs.org (lists.ozlabs.org [IPv6:2401:3900:2:1::3]) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46MVf26tB2zDqC3 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:04:10 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; spf=permerror (mailfrom) smtp.mailfrom=kernel.crashing.org (client-ip=63.228.1.57; helo=gate.crashing.org; envelope-from=segher@kernel.crashing.org; receiver=) Authentication-Results: lists.ozlabs.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=kernel.crashing.org Received: from gate.crashing.org (gate.crashing.org [63.228.1.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46MVZL3rj9zDqgp for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 23:00:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from gate.crashing.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x82D0CbT029470; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:00:12 -0500 Received: (from segher@localhost) by gate.crashing.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id x82D09fF029469; Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:00:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: gate.crashing.org: segher set sender to segher@kernel.crashing.org using -f Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:00:08 -0500 From: Segher Boessenkool To: Michael Ellerman Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 5/6] powerpc/64: Make COMPAT user-selectable disabled on littleendian by default. Message-ID: <20190902130008.GZ31406@gate.crashing.org> References: <87ftlftpy7.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ftlftpy7.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-BeenThere: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Madhavan Srinivasan , David Hildenbrand , Heiko Carstens , Paul Mackerras , Breno Leitao , Michael Neuling , Diana Craciun , Firoz Khan , Hari Bathini , Michal Suchanek , Joel Stanley , Arnd Bergmann , Nicholas Piggin , Alexander Viro , Thomas Gleixner , Allison Randal , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Eric W. Biederman" , Andrew Donnellan , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 12:03:12PM +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote: > Michal Suchanek writes: > > On bigendian ppc64 it is common to have 32bit legacy binaries but much > > less so on littleendian. > > I think the toolchain people will tell you that there is no 32-bit > little endian ABI defined at all, if anything works it's by accident. There of course is a lot of powerpcle-* support. The ABI used for it on linux is the SYSV ABI, just like on BE 32-bit. There also is specific powerpcle-linux support in GCC, and in binutils, too. Also, config.guess/config.sub supports it. Half a year ago this all built fine (no, I don't test it often either). I don't think glibc supports it though, so I wonder if anyone builds an actual system with it? Maybe busybox or the like? > So I think we should not make this selectable, unless someone puts their > hand up to say they want it and are willing to test it and keep it > working. What about actual 32-bit LE systems? Does anyone still use those? Segher