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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/4] uaccess: Add user_read_access_begin/end and user_write_access_begin/end
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 13:27:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202004021322.5F80467@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wg9cSm=AjPmkasNHBDwuW4D10jszjv6EeCKp8V9Qbx2hg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 12:26:52PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:36 AM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > Yup, I think it's a weakness of the ARM implementation and I'd like to
> > not extend it further. AFAIK we should never nest, but I would not be
> > surprised at all if we did.
> 
> Wel, at least the user_access_begin/end() sections can't nest. objtool
> verifies and warns about that on x86.

Right, yes, I mentioned that earlier in the thread. I meant I wasn't
100% sure about ARM's corner cases. I would _hope_ it doesn't.

> > If we were looking at a design goal for all architectures, I'd like
> > to be doing what the public PaX patchset
> 
> We already do better than PaX ever did. Seriously. Mainline has long
> since passed their hacky garbage.

I was just speaking to design principles in this area: if the "enable"
is called when already enabled, Something Is Wrong. :) (And one thing
still missing in this general subject is that x86 still lacks SMAP
emulation. And yes, I understand it's just not been a priority for anyone
that can work on it, but it is still a gap.)

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-02 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02  7:34 [PATCH RESEND 1/4] uaccess: Add user_read_access_begin/end and user_write_access_begin/end Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:34 ` [PATCH RESEND 2/4] uaccess: Selectively open read or write user access Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:51   ` Kees Cook
2020-04-02  8:00     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:34 ` [PATCH RESEND 3/4] drm/i915/gem: Replace user_access_begin by user_write_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:52   ` Kees Cook
2020-04-02  7:59     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:34 ` [PATCH RESEND 4/4] powerpc/uaccess: Implement user_read_access_begin and user_write_access_begin Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02  7:52   ` Kees Cook
2020-04-02  7:46 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/4] uaccess: Add user_read_access_begin/end and user_write_access_begin/end Kees Cook
2020-04-02 16:29 ` Al Viro
2020-04-02 17:03   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02 17:38     ` Kees Cook
2020-04-02 17:50     ` Al Viro
2020-04-02 18:35       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-04-02 18:35       ` Kees Cook
2020-04-02 19:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-02 20:27           ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-04-02 20:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-03  0:58         ` Al Viro
2020-04-03  9:49           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-03 11:26           ` Catalin Marinas
2020-04-03 13:37             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-04-03 17:26               ` Al Viro
2020-04-03 10:02         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin

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