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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 01/39] Kconfig: introduce HAS_IOPORT option and select it as necessary
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 11:10:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220505161028.GA492600@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0sJgMSpZB_Butx2gO0hapYZy-Dm_QH-hG5rOaq_ZgsXg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 11:31:28PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 11:08 PM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 03:49:59PM +0200, Niklas Schnelle wrote:
> > > We introduce a new HAS_IOPORT Kconfig option to indicate support for
> > > I/O Port access. In a future patch HAS_IOPORT=n will disable compilation
> > > of the I/O accessor functions inb()/outb() and friends on architectures
> > > which can not meaningfully support legacy I/O spaces such as s390 or
> > > where such support is optional.
> >
> > So you plan to drop inb()/outb() on architectures where I/O port space
> > is optional?  So even platforms that have I/O port space may not be
> > able to use it?
> >
> > This feels like a lot of work where the main benefit is to keep
> > Kconfig from offering drivers that aren't of interest on s390.
> >
> > Granted, there may be issues where inb()/outb() does the wrong thing
> > such as dereferencing null pointers when I/O port space isn't
> > implemented.  I think that's a defect in inb()/outb() and could be
> > fixed there.
> 
> The current implementation in asm-generic/io.h implements inb()/outb()
> using readb()/writeb() with a fixed architecture specific offset.
> 
> There are three possible things that can happen here:
> 
> a) there is a host bridge driver that maps its I/O ports to this window,
>     and everything works
> b) the address range is reserved and accessible but no host bridge
>    driver has mapped its registers there, so an access causes a
>    page fault
> c) the architecture does not define an offset, and accessing low I/O
>     ports ends up as a NULL pointer dereference
> 
> The main goal is to avoid c), which is what happens on s390, but
> can also happen elsewhere. Catching b) would be nice as well,
> but is much harder to do from generic code as you'd need an
> architecture specific inline asm statement to insert a ex_table
> fixup, or a runtime conditional on each access.

Or s390 could implement its own inb().

I'm hearing that generic powerpc kernels have to run both on machines
that have I/O port space and those that don't.  That makes me think
s390 could do something similar.

Bjorn

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220429135108.2781579-1-schnelle@linux.ibm.com>
2022-04-29 13:49 ` [RFC v2 01/39] Kconfig: introduce HAS_IOPORT option and select it as necessary Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-01 22:40   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-04 21:08   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-05-04 21:31     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-05  8:10       ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-05 16:10       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2022-05-05 17:39         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-05 19:53           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-05-06  9:12             ` Finn Thain
2022-05-06 11:18               ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-07  0:01                 ` Finn Thain
2022-05-07 13:14                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-07 23:59                     ` Finn Thain
2022-05-08  0:15                       ` Finn Thain
2022-05-06  9:38             ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-06 11:07               ` John Garry
2022-05-06 10:20           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 11:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-06 12:27               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 12:53                 ` David Laight
2022-05-06 13:08                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-05-06 13:40                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 14:03                     ` David Laight
2022-05-06 15:02                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-05-06 13:15                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 13:28                     ` David Laight
2022-05-06 14:44                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 14:56                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-05-06 15:03                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 12:53                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-05-06 13:15                   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-06 13:16                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-05-06 12:55                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-05-06 12:42               ` Niklas Schnelle

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