From: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
To: Nathan Lynch <nathanl@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: "Leonardo Brás" <leobras.c@gmail.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "powerpc/rtas: Implement reentrant rtas call"
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 16:20:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230414142051.GH63923@kunlun.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h717t24d.fsf@linux.ibm.com>
Hello,
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 04:56:18PM -0500, Nathan Lynch wrote:
> "Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Wed Sep 14, 2022 at 3:39 AM AEST, Leonardo Brás wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:58 -0500, Nathan Lynch wrote:
> >> > Leonardo Brás <leobras.c@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > > On Fri, 2022-09-09 at 09:04 -0500, Nathan Lynch wrote:
> >> > > > No, it means the premise of commit b664db8e3f97 ("powerpc/rtas:
> >> > > > Implement reentrant rtas call") change is incorrect. The "reentrant"
> >> > > > property described in the spec applies only to the individual RTAS
> >> > > > functions. The OS can invoke (for example) ibm,set-xive on multiple CPUs
> >> > > > simultaneously, but it must adhere to the more general requirement to
> >> > > > serialize with other RTAS functions.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I see. Thanks for explaining that part!
> >> > > I agree: reentrant calls that way don't look as useful on Linux than I
> >> > > previously thought.
> >> > >
> >> > > OTOH, I think that instead of reverting the change, we could make use of the
> >> > > correct information and fix the current implementation. (This could help when we
> >> > > do the same rtas call in multiple cpus)
> >> >
> >> > Hmm I'm happy to be mistaken here, but I doubt we ever really need to do
> >> > that. I'm not seeing the need.
> >> >
> >> > > I have an idea of a patch to fix this.
> >> > > Do you think it would be ok if I sent that, to prospect being an alternative to
> >> > > this reversion?
> >> >
> >> > It is my preference, and I believe it is more common, to revert to the
> >> > well-understood prior state, imperfect as it may be. The revert can be
> >> > backported to -stable and distros while development and review of
> >> > another approach proceeds.
> >>
> >> Ok then, as long as you are aware of the kdump bug, I'm good.
> >>
> >> FWIW:
> >> Reviewed-by: Leonardo Bras <leobras.c@gmail.com>
> >
> > A shame. I guess a reader/writer lock would not be much help because
> > the crash is probably more likely to hit longer running rtas calls?
> >
> > Alternative is just cheat and do this...?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kernel/rtas.c b/arch/powerpc/kernel/rtas.c
> > index 693133972294..89728714a06e 100644
> > --- a/arch/powerpc/kernel/rtas.c
> > +++ b/arch/powerpc/kernel/rtas.c
> > @@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
> > #include <linux/syscalls.h>
> > #include <linux/of.h>
> > #include <linux/of_fdt.h>
> > +#include <linux/panic.h>
> >
> > #include <asm/interrupt.h>
> > #include <asm/rtas.h>
> > @@ -97,6 +98,19 @@ static unsigned long lock_rtas(void)
> > {
> > unsigned long flags;
> >
> > + if (atomic_read(&panic_cpu) == raw_smp_processor_id()) {
> > + /*
> > + * Crash in progress on this CPU. Other CPUs should be
> > + * stopped by now, so skip the lock in case it was being
> > + * held, and is now needed for crashing e.g., kexec
> > + * (machine_kexec_mask_interrupts) requires rtas calls.
> > + *
> > + * It's possible this could have caused rtas state
> > breakage
> > + * but the alternative is deadlock.
> > + */
> > + return 0;
> > + }
> > +
> > local_irq_save(flags);
> > preempt_disable();
> > arch_spin_lock(&rtas.lock);
> > @@ -105,6 +119,9 @@ static unsigned long lock_rtas(void)
> >
> > static void unlock_rtas(unsigned long flags)
> > {
> > + if (atomic_read(&panic_cpu) == raw_smp_processor_id())
> > + return;
> > +
> > arch_spin_unlock(&rtas.lock);
> > local_irq_restore(flags);
> > preempt_enable();
>
> Looks correct.
>
> I wonder - would it be worth making the panic path use a separate
> "emergency" rtas_args buffer as well? If a CPU is actually "stuck" in
> RTAS at panic time, then leaving rtas.args untouched might make the
> ibm,int-off, ibm,set-xive, ibm,os-term, and any other RTAS calls we
> incur on the panic path more likely to succeed.
Was some fix for the case of crashing in rtas merged?
Looks like there is none unless I missed something.
The paramater area allocator might help with the latter
but the former does not seem addressed.
Thanks
Michal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-14 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-07 22:01 [PATCH] Revert "powerpc/rtas: Implement reentrant rtas call" Nathan Lynch
2022-09-08 7:56 ` Laurent Dufour
[not found] ` <1d76891ee052112ee1547a4027e358d5cbcac23d.camel@gmail.com>
2022-09-09 14:04 ` Nathan Lynch
2022-09-12 15:22 ` Leonardo Brás
2022-09-12 19:58 ` Nathan Lynch
2022-09-13 17:39 ` Leonardo Brás
2022-09-16 1:31 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-09-16 21:56 ` Nathan Lynch
2022-09-19 13:51 ` Nathan Lynch
2022-09-19 23:45 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-09-20 3:54 ` Nicholas Piggin
2022-09-21 15:54 ` Nathan Lynch
2023-04-14 14:20 ` Michal Suchánek [this message]
2023-04-17 13:55 ` Nathan Lynch
2022-09-23 10:57 ` Michael Ellerman
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