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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240904102254.GA13280@willie-the-truck> On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 11:22:54AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 03:54:13PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:08:08PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 12:38:04PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 07:40:52PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 06:08:36PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 05:41:06PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 03:45:32PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 04:10:49PM +0100, Joey Gouly wrote: > > > > > > > > > +static void permission_overlay_switch(struct task_struct *next) > > > > > > > > > +{ > > > > > > > > > + if (!system_supports_poe()) > > > > > > > > > + return; > > > > > > > > > + > > > > > > > > > + current->thread.por_el0 = read_sysreg_s(SYS_POR_EL0); > > > > > > > > > + if (current->thread.por_el0 != next->thread.por_el0) { > > > > > > > > > + write_sysreg_s(next->thread.por_el0, SYS_POR_EL0); > > > > > > > > > + /* ISB required for kernel uaccess routines when chaning POR_EL0 */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nit: typo "chaning". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But more substantially, is this just to prevent spurious faults in the > > > > > > > > context of a new thread using a stale value for POR_EL0? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not just prevent faults but enforce the permissions from the new > > > > > > > thread's POR_EL0. The kernel may continue with a uaccess routine from > > > > > > > here, we can't tell. > > > [...] > > > > > > So what do we actually gain by having the uaccess routines honour this? > > > > > > > > > > I guess where it matters is more like not accidentally faulting because > > > > > the previous thread had more restrictive permissions. > > > > > > > > That's what I wondered initially, but won't the fault handler retry in > > > > that case? > > > > > > Yes, it will retry and this should be fine (I assume you are only > > > talking about the dropping ISB in the context switch). > > > > > > For the case of running with a more permissive stale POR_EL0, arguably it's > > > slightly more predictable for the user but, OTOH, some syscalls like > > > readv() could be routed through GUP with no checks. As with MTE, we > > > don't guarantee uaccesses honour the user permissions. > > > > > > That said, at some point we should sanitise this path anyway and have a > > > single ISB at the end. In the meantime, I'm fine with dropping the ISB > > > here. > > > > > > > commit 3141fb86bee8d48ae47cab1594dad54f974a8899 > > Author: Joey Gouly > > Date: Tue Sep 3 15:47:26 2024 +0100 > > > > fixup! arm64: context switch POR_EL0 register > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/process.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/process.c > > index a3a61ecdb165..c224b0955f1a 100644 > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/process.c > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/process.c > > @@ -515,11 +515,8 @@ static void permission_overlay_switch(struct task_struct *next) > > return; > > > > current->thread.por_el0 = read_sysreg_s(SYS_POR_EL0); > > - if (current->thread.por_el0 != next->thread.por_el0) { > > + if (current->thread.por_el0 != next->thread.por_el0) > > write_sysreg_s(next->thread.por_el0, SYS_POR_EL0); > > - /* ISB required for kernel uaccess routines when chaning POR_EL0 */ > > - isb(); > > - } > > } > > What about the one in flush_poe()? I'm inclined to drop that as well. Yes I guess that one can be removed too. Catalin any comments? > > > Will, do you want me to re-send the series with this and the permissions > > diff from the other thread [1], > > or you ok with applying them when you pull it in? > > I'll have a crack now, but if it fails miserably then I'll let you know. Thanks! Just to make sure, you should pick the patch up from https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20240903152937.GA3768522@e124191.cambridge.arm.com/ Not the one I linked to in [1] in my previous e-mail. Thanks, Joey