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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
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	"Sami Tolvanen" <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Daniel Gomez" <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] sysfs: constify bin_attribute argument of sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read()
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 08:56:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025010914-gangly-trodden-aa96@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJMV-zRcDKftZ-MbKEJQ7XGmPteMYCS0Bm5siBEXUK=Fw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 09:45:45AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 2:30 AM Thomas Weißschuh <linux@weissschuh.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 2024-12-30 16:50:41-0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:43 AM Thomas Weißschuh <linux@weissschuh.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Most users use this function through the BIN_ATTR_SIMPLE* macros,
> > > > they can handle the switch transparently.
> > > >
> > > > This series is meant to be merged through the driver core tree.
> > >
> > > hmm. why?
> >
> > Patch 1 changes the signature of sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read().
> > Before patch 1 sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read() needs to be assigned to the
> > callback member .read, after patch 1 it's .read_new.
> > (Both callbacks work exactly the same, except for their signature,
> > .read_new is only a transition mechanism and will go away again)
> >
> > > I'd rather take patches 2 and 3 into bpf-next to avoid
> > > potential conflicts.
> > > Patch 1 looks orthogonal and independent.
> >
> > If you pick up 2 and 3 through bpf-next you would need to adapt these
> > assignments. As soon as both patch 1 and the modified 2 and 3 hit
> > Linus' tree, the build would break due to mismatches function pointers.
> > (Casting function pointers to avoid the mismatch will blow up with KCFI)
> 
> I see. All these steps to constify is frankly a mess.
> You're wasting cpu and memory for this read vs read_new
> when const is not much more than syntactic sugar in C.
> You should have done one tree wide patch without doing this _new() hack.
> 
> Anyway, rant over. Carry patches 2,3. Hopefully they won't conflict.
> But I don't want to see any constification patches in bpf land
> that come with such pointless runtime penalty.

The "pointless" penalty will go away once we convert all instances, and
really, it's just one pointer check, sysfs files should NOT be a hot
path for anything real, and one more pointer check should be cached and
not measurable compared to the real logic behind the binary data coming
from the hardware/kernel, right?

sysfs is NOT tuned for speed at all, so adding more checks like this
should be fine.

thanks,

greg k-h


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-09  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-28  8:43 [PATCH v2 0/3] sysfs: constify bin_attribute argument of sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read() Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-28  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Thomas Weißschuh
2025-01-02  5:37   ` Aditya Gupta
2025-01-02  5:41     ` Aditya Gupta
2025-01-03  8:55   ` Mahesh J Salgaonkar
2025-01-06 11:19   ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2024-12-28  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] btf: Switch vmlinux BTF attribute to sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read() Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-28  8:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] btf: Switch module " Thomas Weißschuh
2024-12-31  0:50 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] sysfs: constify bin_attribute argument of sysfs_bin_attr_simple_read() Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-31 10:30   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-01-08 17:45     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-01-09  7:56       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-01-09  8:06         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-09  8:12           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-09  8:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-10 14:02               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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