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From: Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com>
To: Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft.de>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "mad skateman" <madskateman@gmail.com>,
	"R.T.Dickinson" <rtd2@xtra.co.nz>,
	"Christian Zigotzky" <info@xenosoft.de>,
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	hypexed@yahoo.com.au, "Darren Stevens" <darren@stevens-zone.net>,
	debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PPC] Boot problems after the pci-v6.18-changes
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:59:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251015145901.3ca9d8a0@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EF4D5B4B-9A61-4CF8-A5CC-5F6A49E824C1@xenosoft.de>

On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:27:00 +0200
Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft.de> wrote:

> > On 15 October 2025 at 01:58 pm, Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Christian,
> >   
> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2025 13:30:44 +0200
> >> Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft.de> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Herve,
> >>   
> >>>> On 15 October 2025 at 10:39 am, Herve Codina <herve.codina@bootlin.com> wrote:  
> >>> 
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> 
> >>> I also observed issues with the commit f3ac2ff14834 ("PCI/ASPM: Enable all
> >>> ClockPM and ASPM states for devicetree platforms")    
> >> 
> >> Thanks for reporting.
> >>   
> >>> 
> >>> Also tried the quirk proposed in this discussion (quirk_disable_aspm_all)
> >>> an the quirk also fixes the timing issue.    
> >> 
> >> Where have you added quirk_disable_aspm_all?  
> > 
> > --- 8< ---
> > diff --git a/drivers/pci/quirks.c b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > index 214ed060ca1b..a3808ab6e92e 100644
> > --- a/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/quirks.c
> > @@ -2525,6 +2525,17 @@ static void quirk_disable_aspm_l0s_l1(struct pci_dev *dev)
> >  */
> > DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_ASMEDIA, 0x1080, quirk_disable_aspm_l0s_l1);
> > 
> > +static void quirk_disable_aspm_all(struct pci_dev *dev)
> > +{
> > +       pci_info(dev, "Disabling ASPM\n");
> > +       pci_disable_link_state(dev, PCIE_LINK_STATE_ALL);
> > +}
> > +
> > +/* LAN966x PCI board */
> > +DECLARE_PCI_FIXUP_FINAL(PCI_VENDOR_ID_EFAR, 0x9660, quirk_disable_aspm_all);
> > +
> > /*
> >  * Some Pericom PCIe-to-PCI bridges in reverse mode need the PCIe Retrain
> >  * Link bit cleared after starting the link retrain process to allow this
> > --- 8< ---
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Hervé  
> 
> It is the same patch, I use for my AMD Radeon cards.
> 
> In my point of view we have to add a lot of other devices.

Yes, probably!

> 
> But if the computer does not boot, will the average user know that there is a problem with the power management and their graphics card?
> I am unsure whether I can deliver the kernel to average users later on.

Also when it boots, it is not easy to know about the problem root cause.

In my case, it was not obvious to make the relationship on my side between
my ping timings behavior and ASPM.

Of course 'git bisect' helped a lot but can we rely on that for the average
user?

Best regards,
Hervé


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-15 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-30 11:59 Radeon NI: GIT kernel with the nislands_smc commit doesn't boot on a Freescale P5040 board and P.A.Semi Nemo board Christian Zigotzky
2021-04-30 15:26 ` Deucher, Alexander
2021-04-30 15:56   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-05-03 22:25 ` [FSL P50x0] Xorg always restarts again and again after the the PowerPC updates 5.13-1 Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  4:56   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  7:21     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  7:47       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  8:29         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  8:58           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  9:09             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  9:11               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04  9:46                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04  9:49                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 10:07                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 11:02                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 13:48                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:48                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 14:52                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:41                         ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-04 14:59                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 15:17                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-05 12:43                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-06  6:12                                 ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06  7:56                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-06  8:09                                     ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06 13:58                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-08 16:39                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 12:27                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 17:43                                             ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-09 21:46                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 17:36                                           ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13  6:47                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 10:01                                               ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 15:19                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 15:51                                                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 16:35                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 17:00                                                       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-13 20:20                                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-13 22:58                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-05-14  0:19                                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-04 14:44                   ` Christophe Leroy
2021-05-06 23:55 ` Radeon NI: GIT kernel with the nislands_smc commit doesn't boot on a Freescale P5040 board and P.A.Semi Nemo board Gustavo A. R. Silva
2021-05-07  6:43   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-08 11:33     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-05-09 23:04       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2023-11-02 14:45       ` Fbdev issue after the drm updates 'drm-next-2023-10-31-1' Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-07  8:36         ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-12 14:23           ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-13 12:48             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-13 13:12               ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-14  9:45               ` Christian Zigotzky
2023-11-15  8:33                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-15  9:22                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2023-11-16 13:13                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-04 10:45 ` [VirtIO GPU] Xorg doesn't start with the DRM updates 'drm-next-2021-11-03' in a virtual e5500 QEMU KVM-HV machine on a Freescale P5040 board Christian Zigotzky
     [not found]   ` <20211104214249.1802789-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2021-11-05 18:05     ` [PATCH] drm/virtio: Fix NULL dereference error in virtio_gpu_poll Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-08 14:48   ` [FSL P50x0] Cyrus+ board doesn't boot with the PowerPC updates 5.16-1 Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 14:45     ` [PASEMI] Nemo board doesn't recognize any ATA disks with the pci-v5.16 updates Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 15:10       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-09 16:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-09 22:40           ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-11-09 23:05             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-11-09 23:18               ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-11-10 16:42                 ` Robert Święcki
2021-11-10  3:52             ` Damien Le Moal
2021-11-10 18:07       ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-10 18:41         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-10 19:09           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11  5:24             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11  7:13               ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11  7:47                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 10:20                   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11 10:44                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 11:24                       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-11 11:54                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-11 22:21                     ` Olof Johansson
2021-11-12 11:49                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-11-11 17:39         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12  9:40           ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 10:11             ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 11:00               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 13:41             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 14:15               ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 14:46                 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-12 15:01                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2021-11-12 15:05                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 16:35                       ` [PPC] Boot problems after the pci-v6.18-changes Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 16:40                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2025-10-08 16:47                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-08 19:51                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-09  4:54                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-09  5:37                             ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-11  5:12                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-11  5:25                                 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-11 15:11                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-11 19:34                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-12  7:47                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-12  8:26                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  4:46                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  5:02                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13  5:23                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 14:50                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:02                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:38                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-13 15:58                                             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-14  4:48                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-14  4:55                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15  6:41                                                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-13 16:01                                         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15  8:13                                     ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 11:30                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 11:58                                         ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 12:27                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 12:59                                             ` Herve Codina [this message]
2025-10-15 13:14                                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 13:17                                                 ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 13:34                                                 ` Herve Codina
2025-10-15 16:54                                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 17:15                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  3:28                                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  7:36                                                     ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-16  7:53                                                       ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-16 10:44                                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-17  5:35                                                           ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 16:23                                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-15 13:07                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-10-15 12:50                                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-23  7:38                                             ` Herve Codina
2025-10-23  8:49                                               ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-10-23  9:19                                                 ` Herve Codina
2025-10-23 16:59                                                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-15 23:40                                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-13 21:06                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-14 18:51                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-10-30 22:11                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-01  5:39                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01  7:50                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01  7:59                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-01 17:06                                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-11-03 18:28                                   ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-05 22:09                                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-06  8:48                                       ` Hongxing Zhu
2025-11-06 18:25                                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-07  2:26                                           ` Hongxing Zhu
2025-11-07  5:06                                       ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-11  5:15                                         ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-11 12:20                                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-11-12  3:40                                             ` Christian Zigotzky
2025-11-13  0:44                                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-09 16:13     ` [FSL P50x0] Cyrus+ board doesn't boot with the PowerPC updates 5.16-1 Christophe Leroy

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