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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org, jack@suse.cz,
	raven@themaw.net, miklos@szeredi.hu, neil@brown.name,
	a.hindborg@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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	kees@kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
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	casey@schaufler-ca.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	john.johansen@canonical.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	borntraeger@linux.ibm.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 31/50] convert autofs
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 01:55:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251028015553.GM2441659@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251028004614.393374-32-viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>

On Tue, Oct 28, 2025 at 12:45:50AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:

> @@ -627,7 +626,7 @@ static int autofs_dir_unlink(struct inode *dir, struct dentry *dentry)
>  
>  	p_ino = autofs_dentry_ino(dentry->d_parent);
>  	p_ino->count--;
> -	dput(dentry);
> +	d_make_discardable(dentry);
>  
>  	d_inode(dentry)->i_size = 0;
>  	clear_nlink(d_inode(dentry));

BTW, is there any reason why autofs_dir_unlink() does not update
ctime of the parent directory?  Try it on a normal filesystem:

; mkdir foo
; touch foo/bar
; stat --printf='%z\n' foo
2025-10-27 21:40:03.489427380 -0400
; rm foo/bar
; stat --printf='%z\n' foo
2025-10-27 21:40:16.853470607 -0400

and note the change of ctime of directory reported after removing
an entry in it.   All Unices since v7 had been that way...

Why does autofs unlink() need to be different in that respect?
Some userland reasons?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-28  0:45 [PATCH v2 00/50] tree-in-dcache stuff Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 01/50] fuse_ctl_add_conn(): fix nlink breakage in case of early failure Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 02/50] tracefs: fix a leak in eventfs_create_events_dir() Al Viro
2025-10-28  1:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 03/50] new helper: simple_remove_by_name() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 04/50] new helper: simple_done_creating() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 05/50] introduce a flag for explicitly marking persistently pinned dentries Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 06/50] primitives for maintaining persisitency Al Viro
2025-10-28 12:38   ` James Bottomley
2025-10-29  5:10     ` Al Viro
2025-10-29 15:25       ` James Bottomley
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 07/50] convert simple_{link,unlink,rmdir,rename,fill_super}() to new primitives Al Viro
2025-10-29 14:02   ` [External] : " Mark Tinguely
2025-10-29 17:55     ` Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 08/50] convert ramfs and tmpfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 09/50] procfs: make /self and /thread_self dentries persistent Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 10/50] configfs, securityfs: kill_litter_super() not needed Al Viro
2025-10-28 23:58   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-29  6:18   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 11/50] convert xenfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 12/50] convert smackfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 13/50] convert hugetlbfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 14/50] convert mqueue Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 15/50] convert bpf Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 16/50] convert dlmfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 17/50] convert fuse_ctl Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 18/50] convert pstore Al Viro
2025-11-04  1:43   ` Kees Cook
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 19/50] convert tracefs Al Viro
2025-10-28 15:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 20/50] convert debugfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 21/50] debugfs: remove duplicate checks in callers of start_creating() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 22/50] convert efivarfs Al Viro
2025-10-28 12:53   ` James Bottomley
2025-10-28 17:45     ` Al Viro
2025-10-28 21:08       ` Al Viro
2025-10-28 21:34         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-29 18:08           ` Al Viro
2025-10-29 18:26             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-29 18:57           ` James Bottomley
2025-10-29 19:37             ` Al Viro
2025-10-29 19:48               ` James Bottomley
2025-10-30 13:35               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-11-05 11:47                 ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 13:09                   ` James Bottomley
2025-11-05 13:16                     ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 13:33                       ` James Bottomley
2025-11-05 13:46                         ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 14:01                           ` James Bottomley
2025-11-05 15:23                             ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-05 13:43                       ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-09 20:40                         ` Al Viro
2025-11-11 10:56                           ` Christian Brauner
2025-11-19 21:15                         ` [REGRESSION] " Chris Bainbridge
2025-11-05 14:34                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 23/50] convert spufs Al Viro
2025-10-28  1:15   ` bot+bpf-ci
2025-10-28  1:33     ` Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 24/50] convert ibmasmfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 25/50] ibmasmfs: get rid of ibmasmfs_dir_ops Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 26/50] convert devpts Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 27/50] binderfs: use simple_start_creating() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 28/50] binderfs_binder_ctl_create(): kill a bogus check Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 29/50] convert binderfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 30/50] autofs_{rmdir,unlink}: dentry->d_fsdata->dentry == dentry there Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 31/50] convert autofs Al Viro
2025-10-28  1:55   ` Al Viro [this message]
2025-10-28  5:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 32/50] convert binfmt_misc Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 33/50] selinuxfs: don't stash the dentry of /policy_capabilities Al Viro
2025-10-29  0:08   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-29 15:19   ` Stephen Smalley
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 34/50] selinuxfs: new helper for attaching files to tree Al Viro
2025-10-28 23:51   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-29 15:22   ` Stephen Smalley
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 35/50] convert selinuxfs Al Viro
2025-10-29  0:02   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-29  3:24     ` Al Viro
2025-10-29 14:49       ` Paul Moore
2025-10-29 15:06   ` Stephen Smalley
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 36/50] functionfs: switch to simple_remove_by_name() Al Viro
2025-10-28  8:47   ` Greg KH
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 37/50] convert functionfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 38/50] gadgetfs: switch to simple_remove_by_name() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 39/50] convert gadgetfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:45 ` [PATCH v2 40/50] hypfs: don't pin dentries twice Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 41/50] hypfs: switch hypfs_create_str() to returning int Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 42/50] hypfs: swich hypfs_create_u64() " Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 43/50] convert hypfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 44/50] convert rpc_pipefs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 45/50] convert nfsctl Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 46/50] convert rust_binderfs Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 47/50] get rid of kill_litter_super() Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 48/50] convert securityfs Al Viro
2025-10-29  0:10   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 49/50] kill securityfs_recursive_remove() Al Viro
2025-10-29  0:04   ` Paul Moore
2025-10-28  0:46 ` [PATCH v2 50/50] d_make_discardable(): warn if given a non-persistent dentry Al Viro
2025-10-28  0:59 ` [PATCH v2 00/50] tree-in-dcache stuff Al Viro
2025-10-28  5:33 ` Linus Torvalds

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