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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Link Mauve" <linkmauve@linkmauve.fr>,
	"David Laight" <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)" <mkchauras@gmail.com>,
	"Madhavan Srinivasan" <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Nicholas Piggin" <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"Christophe Leroy" <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Josh Poimboeuf" <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
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	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Re: [PATCH V13 5/7] rust: Make __udivdi3() and __umoddi3() panic
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2026 18:05:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21348763-ff78-46c6-b0eb-eedce69a839a@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aes7L3M1d_LvvGKa@luna>

On Fri, Apr 24, 2026, at 11:43, Link Mauve wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2026 at 10:14:25AM +0100, David Laight wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Apr 2026 11:17:40 +0530
>> "Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)" <mkchauras@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > From: Link Mauve <linkmauve@linkmauve.fr>
>> > 
>> > The core crate currently depends on these two functions for i64/u64/
>> > i128/u128/core::time::Duration formatting, but we shouldn’t use that in
>> > the kernel so let’s panic if they are ever called.
>> 
>> Ugg.
>> Surely you can make it a link-time failure?
>> Or change the underlying code to avoid the divide.
>
> This is currently a link-time failure, which means if any of the core
> crate or drm_panic_qr are linked in, the kernel will fail to link.
>
> And since we rely on core, that means no kernel can be built on PowerPC
> without this patch.
>
> A possible solution would be to change the core crate to not divide
> u64s, but the last time I tried to do that I couldn’t quite figure out
> how to do formatting without it, maybe I will just open an issue against
> Rust.

I think you just need to rewrite the patch description, it appears
that everyone misunderstands what you are doing in the patch:

Like on arm32, normal kernel code will continue to cause
a link failure the same way in Rust as it does in C, and your
patch does not change that. When you (or Link Mauve) "let's panic",
I assume this is was just a mistake in summarizing the logic
that turns the unreachable code from the Rust core crate
into a runtime assertion since it would be impossible to link
the kernel otherwise.

Silently turning a 64-bit division into a panic() for normal
code would of course be unacceptable, but that's not what
you are doing here.

    Arnd


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-27 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-24  5:47 [PATCH V13 0/7] Rust support for powerpc Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 1/7] rust: Fix "multiple candidates for rmeta dependency core" error Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 2/7] dma-resv: Fix undefined symbol when CONFIG_DMA_SHARED_BUFFER is disabled Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  7:56   ` Christian König
2026-04-24  8:06     ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-04-24  8:25       ` Christian König
2026-04-24  8:34         ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-04-24  8:44           ` Christian König
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 3/7] powerpc/jump_label: adjust inline asm to be consistent Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 4/7] rust/powerpc: Set min rustc version for powerpc Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 5/7] rust: Make __udivdi3() and __umoddi3() panic Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  8:59   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-24  9:14   ` David Laight
2026-04-24  9:43     ` Link Mauve
2026-04-24 10:20       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-24 10:34         ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-24 10:26       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-04-24 11:09       ` David Laight
2026-04-27 16:05       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2026-04-24 11:54   ` Segher Boessenkool
2026-04-24 11:57     ` Segher Boessenkool
2026-04-24 12:53       ` Segher Boessenkool
2026-04-24 12:43   ` Gary Guo
2026-04-26  7:52     ` Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya
2026-04-26 14:20       ` Gary Guo
2026-04-26 22:04         ` David Laight
2026-04-27 13:04           ` Gary Guo
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 6/7] rust: Add PowerPC support Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)
2026-04-24  5:47 ` [PATCH V13 7/7] powerpc: Enable Rust for ppc64le Mukesh Kumar Chaurasiya (IBM)

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