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From: Li Yang <leoli@freescale.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: paulus@samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/mm: setting mmaped page cache property through device tree
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:25:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a27d3730912012225h3deab5dao2211bc404d247192@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E389CC83-307F-4A7D-B90B-CD928A1D1D1D@kernel.crashing.org>

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Segher Boessenkool
<segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>> The scenario for the first case is that in a multicore system running
>> ASMP which means different OS runs on different cores. =C2=A0They might
>> communicate through a shared memory region. =C2=A0The region on every OS
>> need to be mapped with the same cache perperty to avoid cache paradox.
>
> This isn't true. =C2=A0In ASMP, you cannot usually do coherency between
> the different CPUs at all. =C2=A0Also, in most PowerPC implementations,

Coherency can't be achieved with proper configuration and management?  Why =
so?

> it is fine if one CPU maps a memory range as coherent while another
> maps it as non-coherent; sure, you have to be careful or you will

But we do want the shared region to be coherent.  So mappings should
have the same cacheability property.

> read stale data, but things won't wedge.
>
>> The scenario for the second case is to pre-allocate some memory to a
>> certain application or device (probably through mem=3DXXX kernel
>> parameter or limit through device tree). =C2=A0The memory is not known t=
o
>> kernel, but fully managed by the application/device. =C2=A0We need being
>> able to map the region cachable for better performance.
>
> So make the memory known to the kernel, just tell the kernel not to
> use it. =C2=A0If it's normal system RAM, just put it in the "memory" node
> and do a memreserve on it (or do something in your platform code); if
> it's some other memory, do a device driver for it, map it there.

Your solution is feasible.  But the memory allocation is a software
configuration.  IMHO, it should be better and easier addressed by
changing configurations(like mem parameter) rather than the kernel
platform code which should address hardware configuration.

- Leo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-02  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-01 10:30 [PATCH] powerpc/mm: setting mmaped page cache property through device tree Li Yang
2009-12-01 10:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-01 11:34   ` Li Yang
2009-12-01 14:35     ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-12-02  6:25       ` Li Yang [this message]
2009-12-03  4:15         ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-12-03  6:15           ` Li Yang
2009-12-04  2:38       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-04  2:37     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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