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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] gianfar: Add I/O barriers when touching buffer descriptor ownership.
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 02:41:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <319ad63a0d38335a6b0c221e8f3c26b0@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070504221309.GR6193@austin.ibm.com>

>> Well, Segher doesn't want me to use iobarrier (because it's not I/O).
>> Andy doesn't want me to use wmb() (because it's sync).  I don't think
>> something like gfar_wmb() would be appropriate.  So the remaining
>> options are either eieio(),
>
> ? Just curious... the original intent of eieio was to order I/O,
> such as MMIO; it has no effect on memory that isn't marked
> cache-inhibited or write-trhough or guarded. Has this changed?

eieio orders all accesses to address space that is WIMG=1xxx
or WIMG=x1x1; separately, it orders stores to address space
that is WIMG=001x.

> I guess I haven't kept up with the times ... is eieio now
> being used to provide some other kind of barrier?

Nothing changed.

> Is eieio providing some sort of SMP synchronization side-effect?

It orders stores to "well-behaved" memory yes.

> Point being: if Segher doesn't let you "use iobarrier (because
> it's not I/O)", then I don't understand why eieio would work (since
> that's for io only).

iobarrier() is a kernel-level primitive, meant for ordering
I/O only, as its name indicates.  eieio is a CPU insn that
orders stores to main memory (amongst other things), not that
its name would tell you.


Segher

      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-05  0:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-02 19:57 [PATCH v2] gianfar: Add I/O barriers when touching buffer descriptor ownership Scott Wood
2007-05-02 20:09 ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-02 20:12   ` Scott Wood
2007-05-02 20:20     ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-02 20:40       ` Scott Wood
2007-05-02 21:23         ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-02 21:30           ` Scott Wood
2007-05-03  2:10             ` Kumar Gala
2007-05-03 16:00               ` Scott Wood
2007-05-03 16:38                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-02 23:42         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-05-04 22:13         ` Linas Vepstas
2007-05-04 23:24           ` Olof Johansson
2007-05-05  0:41           ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]

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