What a day for linuxppc!

What a day for linuxppc!

[Martin Costabel]

Yesterday should have been a great day in the life of linuxppc. Several
long-awaited things finally came out:

1) The 2.2.3 kernel from Linus. Unfortunately it doesn't compile on PPC,
because Paul's semaphore patches didn't make it. The semaphore patches
for Alpha are there, though, and they are not older, so why is this so?

2) The new R5 beta1. Unfortunately, instead of a working installer, the
old crap from 3 months ago is included. I know there have been more
recent installers on mirror.linuxppc.org. Why aren't they there? The
tired little README file makes things even worse. It is lying when it
says that the included ramdisk.image.gz will suffice for booting. This
one still demands a second floppy. And ftp doesn't work and so on. 

PLEASE PUT A WORKING INSTALLER ON THE NET! I am shouting because I am
tired of seeing (and answering) all the old questions yet again.

Another problem is that the RPMS don't show up on the mirrors. On
sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk (which is my favorite mirror, because it is
nfs-mountable), for example, only the symbolic links were copied; the
rpms themselves are still the old ones and it doesn't look as if they
will be arriving.

3) egcs-1.1.2-prerelease3, soon to become egcs-1.1.2-release. At least
this one is good news: It bootstraps out of the box. This hasn't been
possible for a long time. Well, it still fails most of the tests in the
testsuite, so some polishing by Gary Thomas might be necessary, but it
is good to see that.

--
Martin

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Re: What a day for linuxppc!

[Tom Rini]

On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Martin Costabel wrote:

> 1) The 2.2.3 kernel from Linus. Unfortunately it doesn't compile on PPC,
> because Paul's semaphore patches didn't make it. The semaphore patches
> for Alpha are there, though, and they are not older, so why is this so?

Paul didn't send them on.  Linus doesn't go and pick up patches..

> 2) The new R5 beta1. 

Ah shit.  What timing...  Just as we start a build w/ rpm 2.9x, feh.

> Unfortunately, instead of a working installer, the
> old crap from 3 months ago is included. I know there have been more
> recent installers on mirror.linuxppc.org. Why aren't they there? The

Well, the current installer works for FTP/HTTP installs, but I forget
weather disk/cdrom works ATM.

> PLEASE PUT A WORKING INSTALLER ON THE NET! I am shouting because I am
> tired of seeing (and answering) all the old questions yet again.

Soon enough, hopefully...

> Another problem is that the RPMS don't show up on the mirrors. On
> sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk (which is my favorite mirror, because it is
> nfs-mountable), for example, only the symbolic links were copied; the
> rpms themselves are still the old ones and it doesn't look as if they
> will be arriving.

linuxppc.slackers.cx has a current mirror of the build box.  Might not be
NFS able, but it's current. :)

> 3) egcs-1.1.2-prerelease3, soon to become egcs-1.1.2-release. At least
> this one is good news: It bootstraps out of the box. This hasn't been
> possible for a long time. Well, it still fails most of the tests in the
> testsuite, so some polishing by Gary Thomas might be necessary, but it
> is good to see that.

1.1.2 pre 3 seems to be working rather well.  Don't forget to thank Franz
Sirl. :)

---
Tom Rini (TR1265)
http://dobbstown.yeti.edu/


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Re: What a day for linuxppc!

[Paul Mackerras]

Tom Rini <tmrini@ntplx.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Martin Costabel wrote:
> 
> > 1) The 2.2.3 kernel from Linus. Unfortunately it doesn't compile on PPC,
> > because Paul's semaphore patches didn't make it. The semaphore patches
> > for Alpha are there, though, and they are not older, so why is this so?
> 
> Paul didn't send them on.  Linus doesn't go and pick up patches..

Actually, I did, twice, and Cort has also sent them in the past, and
Linus has ignored them all. :-(

Paul.

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Re: What a day for linuxppc!

[Geert Uytterhoeven]

On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, David Edelsohn wrote:
> >>>>> Nathan Hurst writes:
> 
> Nathan> On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Martin Costabel wrote:
> 
> >> 1) The 2.2.3 kernel from Linus. Unfortunately it doesn't compile on PPC,
> >> because Paul's semaphore patches didn't make it. The semaphore patches
> >> for Alpha are there, though, and they are not older, so why is this so?
> 
> Nathan> because linus isn't interested in ppc(read, he doesn't have one).
> Nathan> %sigh%  Someone should donate a good machine to him(listening IBM?).
> 
> 	Why doesn't someone find out why the patches are not being
> accepted instead of guessing.  I do not believe that Linus and the core
> team operate this way.

The main problem consists of two parts:

  - Linus get tons of mails and tend to miss some patches (he's human)
  - there's no way to find out whether he accepted your patch or not, until the
    next (pre)release. If we would always get acks (I got an ack for my last
    bunch of video patches, though), life would be much easier.

Greetings,

						Geert

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Geert Uytterhoeven                     Geert.Uytterhoeven@cs.kuleuven.ac.be
Wavelets, Linux/{m68k~Amiga,PPC~CHRP}  http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/
Department of Computer Science -- Katholieke Universiteit Leuven -- Belgium


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