Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Benjamin Herrenschmidt]

On Wed, May 12, 1999, Joel Klecker <jk@espy.org> wrote:

>On a unsupported hardware note: the ethernet controller is a DP83843 
>PHYTER made by National Semiconductor, which will need a driver 
>written for it.


The note is confusing, but  think this is just the physical layer. I
didn't have a chance to look at the device tree for those machines yet,
but it looks like the motherboard is very similar to the iMac's one.
The Apple ASIC is a paddington, so I beleive ethernet is a bmac+. Almost
everything should work out of the box, the only potential problem I can
see would be possible changes to the PMU device (named "Cuda PMU" on the
developer note, but I'm pretty sure it's still the old PMU we all know
and hate ;-)


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Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Duraid Madina]

	... and furthermore, is it possible to install Linux PPC on these in a
dedicated configuration? (i.e. no MacOS on the hard drive) and if not,
what is the minimum amount of disk space that must be assigned to the
MacOS to be able to boot LinuxPPC?

	Cheers,

	Duraid.

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Tom Rini]

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Duraid Madina wrote:

> 	... and furthermore, is it possible to install Linux PPC on these in a
> dedicated configuration? (i.e. no MacOS on the hard drive) and if not,
> what is the minimum amount of disk space that must be assigned to the
> MacOS to be able to boot LinuxPPC?

The 2 lbs lighter PBs?  If they're just a bit lighter/faster (nothing too
new, right?) it should.  Again, if they haven't changed much then yes, you
can OF boot it I think.  Otherwise a small (100mb or less?) MacOS install
is needed for BootX.

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Tom Rini]

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Duraid Madina wrote:

> 	... and furthermore, is it possible to install Linux PPC on these in a
> dedicated configuration? (i.e. no MacOS on the hard drive) and if not,
> what is the minimum amount of disk space that must be assigned to the
> MacOS to be able to boot LinuxPPC?

And after looking at MOSR (the /101 part confused me..) it'll take a bit
of work no doubt.  But hopefully they'll have the Linux Tech job filled so
we might get details(!) or even seeded for HW(!!!).

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Hugh Caley]

Why do you think it would work, Tom?  You can't OF boot the "Wallstreet"
G3 laptops, can you?

Hugh

Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:56:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Rini <tmrini@ntplx.net>
Subject: Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

On Wed, 12 May 1999, Duraid Madina wrote:

>       ... and furthermore, is it possible to install Linux PPC on
these in a
> dedicated configuration? (i.e. no MacOS on the hard drive) and if not,

> what is the minimum amount of disk space that must be assigned to the
> MacOS to be able to boot LinuxPPC?

The 2 lbs lighter PBs?  If they're just a bit lighter/faster (nothing
too
new, right?) it should.  Again, if they haven't changed much then yes,
you
can OF boot it I think.  Otherwise a small (100mb or less?) MacOS
install
is needed for BootX.

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Joel Klecker]

At 23:59 -0700 1999-05-11, Hugh Caley wrote:
>Why do you think it would work, Tom?  You can't OF boot the "Wallstreet"
>G3 laptops, can you?

<http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/hardware/Developer_Notes/Macintos 
h_CPUs-G3/PowerBookG3Series_1999/index.html> shows the new powerbooks 
to be of the new world architecture, thus it has sane OF (though 
until we have ELF images that the OF likes, no OF booting).

On a unsupported hardware note: the ethernet controller is a DP83843 
PHYTER made by National Semiconductor, which will need a driver 
written for it.
Docs: <http://www.national.com/pf/DP/DP83843.html>.

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Tom Rini]

On Tue, 11 May 1999, Hugh Caley wrote:

> Why do you think it would work, Tom?  You can't OF boot the "Wallstreet"
> G3 laptops, can you?

Last I knew, only the New machines (iMac/B&W) coudln't OF boot because of
the new ELF loader (or something like that).  Other machines might have
very odd or difficult OFs (1st G3s) but could be OF booted.  Then again, I
don't have a Wallstreet so I can't be certain.

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Alex Vallens]

Actually, the Wallstreet PowerBooks OF boot just fine. It's a simple
cmd-opt-o-f key command at startup.

Alex


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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Hugh Caley]

I can get to the OF interface; I just can't get it to boot Linuxppc.
Does that work for you?

Hugh



Alex Vallens wrote:

> Actually, the Wallstreet PowerBooks OF boot just fine. It's a simple
> cmd-opt-o-f key command at startup.
>
> Alex

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Dan Burcaw]

The Lombard uses New World ROM. (like iMac and B&W)


On Tue, 11 May 1999, Hugh Caley wrote:

> 
> Why do you think it would work, Tom?  You can't OF boot the "Wallstreet"
> G3 laptops, can you?
> 
> Hugh
> 
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:56:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Tom Rini <tmrini@ntplx.net>
> Subject: Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?
> 
> On Wed, 12 May 1999, Duraid Madina wrote:
> 
> >       ... and furthermore, is it possible to install Linux PPC on
> these in a
> > dedicated configuration? (i.e. no MacOS on the hard drive) and if not,
> 
> > what is the minimum amount of disk space that must be assigned to the
> > MacOS to be able to boot LinuxPPC?
> 
> The 2 lbs lighter PBs?  If they're just a bit lighter/faster (nothing
> too
> new, right?) it should.  Again, if they haven't changed much then yes,
> you
> can OF boot it I think.  Otherwise a small (100mb or less?) MacOS
> install
> is needed for BootX.
> 
> - ---
> Tom Rini (TR1265)
> http://dobbstown.yeti.edu/
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Hugh "Batmensch" Caley
> 
> 
> 


Dan

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Re: Does Linux PPC support the new 'Lombard/101' Powerbook G3s?

[Jason Haas]

Tom Rini wrote:

> And after looking at MOSR (the /101 part confused me..) it'll take a bit
> of work no doubt.  But hopefully they'll have the Linux Tech job filled so
> we might get details(!) or even seeded for HW(!!!).

They've been talking about it for at least 8 months and there hasn't
been any obvious action yet.

-- h.

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