* hfs resource forks in Linux
@ 1999-09-13 19:05 Dan Bethe
1999-09-13 20:30 ` Martin Costabel
1999-09-13 20:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
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From: Dan Bethe @ 1999-09-13 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
Hi guys. In another thread, I saw someone ask for technique to
sensibly manage HFS resource forks in Linux. Here are the following
two tools I've known. 'hfstools' is pretty flexible, and will do
encoding conversions (macbinary, binhex, etc) on the fly. Tons of
options available in that one. I dont know about hfsutils-devel other
than that it's a C library, and the rpm I found was only for i386 but
it's obviously got the docs.
I'm not sure if this is suitable for any advanced or particular use
other than general file management, but it's all I know. I found these
on www.linuxnow.com's search engine.
ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/roughcuts/ppc/SRPMS/hfsutils-3.2-1b.src.rpm
ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/powertools/5.2/i386/hfsutils-devel-3.2-1.i386.rpm
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* Re: hfs resource forks in Linux
1999-09-13 19:05 hfs resource forks in Linux Dan Bethe
@ 1999-09-13 20:30 ` Martin Costabel
1999-09-13 20:44 ` Tom Rini
1999-09-13 20:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Martin Costabel @ 1999-09-13 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Bethe; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
Dan Bethe wrote:
>
> Hi guys. In another thread, I saw someone ask for technique to
> sensibly manage HFS resource forks in Linux. Here are the following
> two tools I've known. 'hfstools' is pretty flexible, and will do
> encoding conversions (macbinary, binhex, etc) on the fly. Tons of
> options available in that one. I dont know about hfsutils-devel other
> than that it's a C library, and the rpm I found was only for i386 but
> it's obviously got the docs.
> I'm not sure if this is suitable for any advanced or particular use
> other than general file management, but it's all I know. I found these
> on www.linuxnow.com's search engine.
>
> ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/roughcuts/ppc/SRPMS/hfsutils-3.2-1b.src.rpm
>
> ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/powertools/5.2/i386/hfsutils-devel-3.2-1.i386.rpm
There is a hfsutils-3.2.6-1.ppc.rpm (and a corresponding -devel-) on
ftp.linuxppc.org in the contrib directory, and YDL has something
similar.
It is still a mystery for me why this package is not included in the
LinuxPPC-dev-rel, nor on the LinuxPPC CD. I think this is a basic
necessity for anyone using LinuxPPC on a Pmac. Fortunately, RedHat
continues to develop it in its rawhide/powertools collection.
On 2.3.xx kernels, the hfs system is broken, and it doesn't look like it
will be fixed in the near future*). So for me at least, hfsutils is
essential to copy things like new kernels to the MacOS system folder
without having to boot MacOS.
*) I saw a message on linux-kernel in which A. Sun, the maintainer of
the hfs code, said that it's on his todo list, but right now "on the
back burner". If that's true and nobody else steps in, we won't see HFS+
support in this century either.
--
Martin
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* Re: hfs resource forks in Linux
1999-09-13 19:05 hfs resource forks in Linux Dan Bethe
1999-09-13 20:30 ` Martin Costabel
@ 1999-09-13 20:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
1999-09-14 9:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Jacobowitz @ 1999-09-13 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
Not quite what I was talking about. These let us touch the resource
fork, and deal with hfs volumes, not manage a specific file's resource
fork on the resource level.
On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 12:05:25PM -0700, Dan Bethe wrote:
>
> Hi guys. In another thread, I saw someone ask for technique to
> sensibly manage HFS resource forks in Linux. Here are the following
> two tools I've known. 'hfstools' is pretty flexible, and will do
> encoding conversions (macbinary, binhex, etc) on the fly. Tons of
> options available in that one. I dont know about hfsutils-devel other
> than that it's a C library, and the rpm I found was only for i386 but
> it's obviously got the docs.
> I'm not sure if this is suitable for any advanced or particular use
> other than general file management, but it's all I know. I found these
> on www.linuxnow.com's search engine.
>
> ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/roughcuts/ppc/SRPMS/hfsutils-3.2-1b.src.rpm
>
> ftp://ftp.varesearch.com/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/powertools/5.2/i386/hfsutils-devel-3.2-1.i386.rpm
> ===
> "We can learn from the past, but those days are gone.
> We can hope for the future, but there may not be one."
> -- http://www.dreamtheater.net/songb5.htm#VI1
>
Dan
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* Re: hfs resource forks in Linux
1999-09-13 20:30 ` Martin Costabel
@ 1999-09-13 20:44 ` Tom Rini
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From: Tom Rini @ 1999-09-13 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Costabel; +Cc: linuxppc-dev
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Martin Costabel wrote:
> It is still a mystery for me why this package is not included in the
> LinuxPPC-dev-rel, nor on the LinuxPPC CD. I think this is a basic
> necessity for anyone using LinuxPPC on a Pmac. Fortunately, RedHat
> continues to develop it in its rawhide/powertools collection.
The dev rel was a straight port of RH6. Very basic PMac tools were added
(since you can cp/mv kernels to/from hfs w/o extra utils, it wasn't
needed/included). Why R5 didn't have it, I dunno, perhaps Q3 has it.
---
Tom Rini (TR1265)
http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/
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* Re: hfs resource forks in Linux
@ 1999-09-13 21:47 Dan Bethe
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From: Dan Bethe @ 1999-09-13 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-dev
> *) I saw a message on linux-kernel in which A. Sun,
> the maintainer of
> the hfs code, said that it's on his todo list, but
> right now "on the
> back burner". If that's true and nobody else steps
> in, we won't see HFS+
> support in this century either.
That's a bummer, because HFS+ is currently the only filesystem I've
thought of which is robustly usable among all three of MacOS 8, MacOS
X, and Linux. I want one that has multiuser and secure (permissions)
properties. UFS seems to do for Linux and MacOS X, but what about
MacOS 8?
I have a 2 GB disk in my low-end Powerbook Wallstreet II, so I need to
share among OS's! ;)
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We can hope for the future, but there may not be one."
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* Re: hfs resource forks in Linux
1999-09-13 20:37 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
@ 1999-09-14 9:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt @ 1999-09-14 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Jacobowitz, linuxppc-dev
On Mon, Sep 13, 1999, Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@false.org> wrote:
>Not quite what I was talking about. These let us touch the resource
>fork, and deal with hfs volumes, not manage a specific file's resource
>fork on the resource level.
The resource fork format is not terribly complex. If noone does it, I'll
look into writing a couple of tools for managing them one of those days.
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