Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Henry Worth]

Michel Ddnzer <daenzerm@student.ethz.ch> wrote:

>After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
>cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in
>X
>with Xkb, but not without.
>
>Anyone else sees this?
>

Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
few times since the new input layer backport went in.

>
>Also, what is the key combination for the Magic Sysrq on a Pismo?
>

For xmon it's <cmd><Power>. I'm not sure the Linux SysReq facility
is supported for PPC, I've never seen it enabled in Ben's .config
files and there is no sign of it in the archives.

However, invoking xmon once X (at least Xpmac 10) is running
will result in a microscopic xmon text session replicated 4 times
across the screen (even if you switch back to a text VT first).

Henry


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Martin Costabel]

Henry Worth wrote:
>
> Michel Dänzer <daenzerm@student.ethz.ch> wrote:

> >Also, what is the key combination for the Magic Sysrq on a Pismo?
> >
>
> For xmon it's <cmd><Power>. I'm not sure the Linux SysReq facility
> is supported for PPC, I've never seen it enabled in Ben's .config
> files and there is no sign of it in the archives.

F13 (keycode 0x69) works for me as MagicSysRq (ADB keyboard, kernels
2.2.x or 2.4.0-x).

> However, invoking xmon once X (at least Xpmac 10) is running
> will result in a microscopic xmon text session replicated 4 times
> across the screen (even if you switch back to a text VT first).

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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Henry Worth]

Martin Costabel wrote:
>
> F13 (keycode 0x69) works for me as MagicSysRq (ADB keyboard, kernels
> 2.2.x or 2.4.0-x).
>

Ah, well no F13 or equiv. combo on a Pismo. Grepping through
the sources it doesn't appear there is any bootparm or /proc
entry to change it... So changing it to 0x6f in
/arc/ppc/kernel/pmac_setup.c and rebuilding it should
give you F12 instead.

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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

Henry Worth schrieb:
>
> Michel Ddnzer <daenzerm@student.ethz.ch> wrote:
>
> >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
> >cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in
> >X with Xkb, but not without.
> >
> >Anyone else sees this?
>
> Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> few times since the new input layer backport went in.

I'll do that. I checked Franz's pages on the input layer on PPC and didn't
find anything there.


> However, invoking xmon once X (at least Xpmac 10) is running
> will result in a microscopic xmon text session replicated 4 times
> across the screen (even if you switch back to a text VT first).

This also happens with XFree86, it's because xmon assumes an 8 bit display - I
guess you are running X in 32 bpp? :)


> Martin Costabel wrote:
> >
> > F13 (keycode 0x69) works for me as MagicSysRq (ADB keyboard, kernels
> > 2.2.x or 2.4.0-x).
>
> Ah, well no F13 or equiv. combo on a Pismo. Grepping through
> the sources it doesn't appear there is any bootparm or /proc
> entry to change it...

Would be handy though.

> So changing it to 0x6f in /arc/ppc/kernel/pmac_setup.c and rebuilding it
> should give you F12 instead.

I use that for the right mouse button emu, will it work nonetheless?

Thanks for the tip!


Michel


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

Henry Worth wrote:

> >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
> >cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in
> >X with Xkb, but not without.
> >
> >Anyone else sees this?
>
> Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> few times since the new input layer backport went in.

I've searched the archives now with no luck.

So, can anyone please solve my problem, even if it has been solved before? :)


Michel


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Martin Costabel]

Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> Henry Worth wrote:
>
> > >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
> > >cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in
> > >X with Xkb, but not without.
> > >
> > >Anyone else sees this?
> >
> > Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> > few times since the new input layer backport went in.
>
> I've searched the archives now with no luck.

I haven't seen this discussed, but I'll try a wild guess: What's
suspicious is that the linux keycode for KEY_LEFT is 105=0x69, the same
as the old mac keycode for SYSRQ_KEY. You could easily verify this by
pressing LEFT plus s or t or something and see whether it does some
emergency sync or whatever. Just a guess.

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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

Martin Costabel wrote:

> > > >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the
> > > >left cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it
> > > >works in X with Xkb, but not without.
> > > >
> > > >Anyone else sees this?
> > >
> > > Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> > > few times since the new input layer backport went in.
> >
> > I've searched the archives now with no luck.
>
> I haven't seen this discussed, but I'll try a wild guess: What's
> suspicious is that the linux keycode for KEY_LEFT is 105=0x69, the same
> as the old mac keycode for SYSRQ_KEY. You could easily verify this by
> pressing LEFT plus s or t or something and see whether it does some
> emergency sync or whatever. Just a guess.

But a good one! That's exactly the issue. I wonder how it has worked with Xkb
in X though...

As Magic Sysrq seems to always use ADB keycodes anyway, I'll not use it for
now.


Thanks,

Michel


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Franz Sirl]

At 22:35 25.09.00, Michel Dänzer wrote:

>Martin Costabel wrote:
>
> > > > >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the
> > > > >left cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it
> > > > >works in X with Xkb, but not without.
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyone else sees this?
> > > >
> > > > Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> > > > few times since the new input layer backport went in.
> > >
> > > I've searched the archives now with no luck.
> >
> > I haven't seen this discussed, but I'll try a wild guess: What's
> > suspicious is that the linux keycode for KEY_LEFT is 105=0x69, the same
> > as the old mac keycode for SYSRQ_KEY. You could easily verify this by
> > pressing LEFT plus s or t or something and see whether it does some
> > emergency sync or whatever. Just a guess.
>
>But a good one! That's exactly the issue. I wonder how it has worked with Xkb
>in X though...
>
>As Magic Sysrq seems to always use ADB keycodes anyway, I'll not use it for
>now.

Sorry for not jumping in yet, but I had to concentrate on some time
consuming gcc-2.96 and glibc-2.2 issues to get things going.

Do you have by any chance a CHRP machine? I haven't touched chrp_setup.c yet.
If not, what exact kernel are you using?

BTW, there will be a new xf4 RPMs available soon.

Franz.


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

Franz Sirl wrote:
>
> At 22:35 25.09.00, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>
> >Martin Costabel wrote:
> >
> > > > > >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap),
> > > > > >the left cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore.
> > > > > >Interestingly, it works in X with Xkb, but not without.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Anyone else sees this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> > > > > few times since the new input layer backport went in.
> > > >
> > > > I've searched the archives now with no luck.
> > >
> > > I haven't seen this discussed, but I'll try a wild guess: What's
> > > suspicious is that the linux keycode for KEY_LEFT is 105=0x69, the same
> > > as the old mac keycode for SYSRQ_KEY. You could easily verify this by
> > > pressing LEFT plus s or t or something and see whether it does some
> > > emergency sync or whatever. Just a guess.
> >
> >But a good one! That's exactly the issue. I wonder how it has worked with
> >Xkb in X though...
> >
> >As Magic Sysrq seems to always use ADB keycodes anyway, I'll not use it for
> >now.
>
> Do you have by any chance a CHRP machine?

No. (Look at the subject ;)


> I haven't touched chrp_setup.c yet. If not, what exact kernel are you using?

2.4.0-test8 rsynced from bk-devel some days ago.


> BTW, there will be a new xf4 RPMs available soon.

It worked fine (why?) in the X from the test debs, which contain your X stuff
AFAIK.


Michel


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Henry Worth]

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On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Michel [iso-8859-1] Dänzer wrote:

> Henry Worth wrote:
>
> > >After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
> > >cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in
> > >X with Xkb, but not without.
> > >
> > >Anyone else sees this?
> >
> > Check the dev and user archives, I think this has been discussed a
> > few times since the new input layer backport went in.
>
> I've searched the archives now with no luck.
>
> So, can anyone please solve my problem, even if it has been solved before? :)
>
>

Serach on keymap around the late-June through Aug. period. I don't
think any of them specifically addressed your left key problem, but
rather the need for new, and as of then non-existent, keymaps to use
the Linux keycodes mode.


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

Henry Worth wrote:

> Serach on keymap around the late-June through Aug. period. I don't
> think any of them specifically addressed your left key problem, but
> rather the need for new, and as of then non-existent, keymaps to use
> the Linux keycodes mode.

Debian has i386 keymaps which work with Linux keycodes, but thanks anyway.

Martin's suggestion about the keycode clashing with Sysrq sounds promising.
I'll report back tonight.


Michel


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Re: Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Iain Sandoe]

>>Also, what is the key combination for the Magic Sysrq on a Pismo?
>>
>
> For xmon it's <cmd><Power>.

Hmmm. <cmd> <power> is the xmon interrupt key (certainly on the G3 (ADB
Kbd)) - it isn't, however, the magic SysRq key.


>I'm not sure the Linux SysReq facility is supported for PPC, I've never seen it
enabled in Ben's .config files and there is no sign of it in the archives.

SysRq is supported under PPC linux.

SysRq works fine on G3 and it is <cmd> or <alt> <f13> (duh... I forget which
and am not on that machine right now)...

if you grep for it in the kernel tree you can find the code (and change it
if you like).

Iain.

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Linux keycodes and left cursor on Pismo

[Michel Dänzer]

After switching to Linux keycodes (and Debian's i386 us keymap), the left
cursor key doesn't generate a keycode anymore. Interestingly, it works in X
with Xkb, but not without.

Anyone else sees this?


Also, what is the key combination for the Magic Sysrq on a Pismo?


Michel


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