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From: Jeff Hartmann <jhartmann@valinux.com>
To: Dan Malek <dan@mvista.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@fh-brandenburg.de>,
	michdaen@iiic.ethz.ch,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Gareth Hughes <gareth@valinux.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@linuxcare.com>
Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] PPC Lockup (ati-pcigart-branch)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:48:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A6CAAA2.6090607@valinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A6CA6A9.7794B603@mvista.com


Dan Malek wrote:

> Jeff Hartmann wrote:
>
>> Okay let me try and explain things a little better.
>
>
> Got it.  That is what I was guessing, only surprised you are holding
> page structs, but that makes sense.
>
>> ......  Currently there is no kernel function to do
>> this explicitly
>
>
> I'm working on that.  The PowerPC port cheated by using BATs and
> trivial macros, but this doesn't work on some of the newer processors
> and more complex applications.  Other architectures did the same, and
> I am surprised there aren't generic kernel functions to track down this
> information.  In fact, these functions are already present for 4xx and
> 8xx processors, so don't write anything new.
>
>> Another thing that happens later is that we need the bus address of each
>> of these pages to program the card to do scatter gather dma from this
>> region.
>
>
> That's where this is going to fall apart on PowerPC.
>
>> .....  We do virt_to_bus(pagelist[i]->virtual) to accomplish this
>> translation.
>
>
> I have to write some code (or actually remove some #ifdefs) before
> this will work for you.
>
>> I know on the ia32 a pgd/pmd can actually point to 4MB pages rather then
>> a real pte.  Does the PowerPC have anything like this?
>
>
> Not yet.  It's on the way....
>
>> ....  I would doubt
>> that I would encounter anything like this from a vmalloc'ed area of
>> memory (since vmalloc is arch independent and it would call alloc_page
>> for each individual pte.)  Am I correct in this assumption?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>> Just FYI, the code I posted works fine on the ia32 platform (only tested
>> with the i386 classic 2-level page tables.)
>
>
> What you are doing so far should work too on PowerPC.
>
>> Another thing we might be running into here is that vmalloc does not
>> guarantee a virtually contiguous area of memory (or so I am told.)
>
>
> Ummm...of course it is virtually contiguous.  How could it be
> different?  You request a size, and it returns a base virtual address.
> If there were holes in it, how would you know?

Look at vread in vmalloc.c, I think it would handle holes in a
vmalloc'ed area (From a brief reading of the code.)  I've seen postings
about this on linux-kernel.  I don't see a vwrite implementation, but I
would assume you would have to do something similar for writes.

>
>
>> .....  I've
>> NEVER seen this in practice on an ia32 platform.
>
>
> It can't happen on any platform (or I don't understand something about
> the comment, which could very well be the case today).

I think it can, I've seen numerous people talk about it on
linux-kernel.  I've also been told that my /dev/agpgart isn't 'safe'
because it assumes vmalloc'ed memory is always virtually contiguous.  I
think this only happens when there isn't enough virtual address space in
the kernel and its fragmented (probably only happens on machines with
lots of memory.)

-Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-22 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-19  3:26 PPC Lockup (ati-pcigart-branch) Michel Dänzer
2001-01-19  3:55 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-19  6:53   ` [Dri-devel] " Gareth Hughes
2001-01-19 16:48     ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-19 17:24     ` Dan Malek
2001-01-20  0:45       ` Gareth Hughes
2001-01-19 16:40 ` [Dri-devel] " Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-19 17:11   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-19 22:26     ` Chris Emerson
2001-01-19 22:59       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-19 23:43         ` Chris Emerson
2001-01-20  1:38           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-20 13:21             ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-20 16:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-20 17:03                 ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-20  2:46     ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-20  4:17       ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22  9:44         ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 17:59           ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 18:18             ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 18:54               ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 19:39                 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 20:08                   ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 20:30                   ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 21:23                     ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 23:12                       ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-22 21:31                     ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 21:48                       ` Jeff Hartmann [this message]
2001-01-22 22:15                         ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23 16:14                         ` Mike Beede
2001-01-22 22:31                       ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23  0:24                         ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23  2:28                           ` Takashi Oe
2001-01-23  2:40                             ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23  4:40                               ` Ralph Metzler
2001-01-23  5:48                               ` Takashi Oe
2001-01-23 11:24                           ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23  0:34                         ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-23  0:43                           ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-23 11:32                           ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 20:43                   ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 21:07                     ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 17:33         ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 17:38           ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 17:38           ` Gareth Hughes
2001-01-22 17:43           ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 18:36             ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 18:44               ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 18:47               ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 21:13         ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 21:58           ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 23:48         ` Paul Mackerras
2001-01-23  0:13           ` Dan Malek
2001-01-20 13:15       ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-19 17:11   ` Wolfgang Denk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-23  3:34 Iain Sandoe
2001-01-23  6:49 Robert E Brose II
2001-01-23  7:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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