From: Jeff Hartmann <jhartmann@valinux.com>
To: Dan Malek <dan@mvista.com>
Cc: Roman Zippel <zippel@fh-brandenburg.de>,
michdaen@iiic.ethz.ch,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Gareth Hughes <gareth@valinux.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org, dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@linuxcare.com>
Subject: Re: [Dri-devel] PPC Lockup (ati-pcigart-branch)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:48:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A6CAAA2.6090607@valinux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A6CA6A9.7794B603@mvista.com
Dan Malek wrote:
> Jeff Hartmann wrote:
>
>> Okay let me try and explain things a little better.
>
>
> Got it. That is what I was guessing, only surprised you are holding
> page structs, but that makes sense.
>
>> ...... Currently there is no kernel function to do
>> this explicitly
>
>
> I'm working on that. The PowerPC port cheated by using BATs and
> trivial macros, but this doesn't work on some of the newer processors
> and more complex applications. Other architectures did the same, and
> I am surprised there aren't generic kernel functions to track down this
> information. In fact, these functions are already present for 4xx and
> 8xx processors, so don't write anything new.
>
>> Another thing that happens later is that we need the bus address of each
>> of these pages to program the card to do scatter gather dma from this
>> region.
>
>
> That's where this is going to fall apart on PowerPC.
>
>> ..... We do virt_to_bus(pagelist[i]->virtual) to accomplish this
>> translation.
>
>
> I have to write some code (or actually remove some #ifdefs) before
> this will work for you.
>
>> I know on the ia32 a pgd/pmd can actually point to 4MB pages rather then
>> a real pte. Does the PowerPC have anything like this?
>
>
> Not yet. It's on the way....
>
>> .... I would doubt
>> that I would encounter anything like this from a vmalloc'ed area of
>> memory (since vmalloc is arch independent and it would call alloc_page
>> for each individual pte.) Am I correct in this assumption?
>
>
> Yes.
>
>> Just FYI, the code I posted works fine on the ia32 platform (only tested
>> with the i386 classic 2-level page tables.)
>
>
> What you are doing so far should work too on PowerPC.
>
>> Another thing we might be running into here is that vmalloc does not
>> guarantee a virtually contiguous area of memory (or so I am told.)
>
>
> Ummm...of course it is virtually contiguous. How could it be
> different? You request a size, and it returns a base virtual address.
> If there were holes in it, how would you know?
Look at vread in vmalloc.c, I think it would handle holes in a
vmalloc'ed area (From a brief reading of the code.) I've seen postings
about this on linux-kernel. I don't see a vwrite implementation, but I
would assume you would have to do something similar for writes.
>
>
>> ..... I've
>> NEVER seen this in practice on an ia32 platform.
>
>
> It can't happen on any platform (or I don't understand something about
> the comment, which could very well be the case today).
I think it can, I've seen numerous people talk about it on
linux-kernel. I've also been told that my /dev/agpgart isn't 'safe'
because it assumes vmalloc'ed memory is always virtually contiguous. I
think this only happens when there isn't enough virtual address space in
the kernel and its fragmented (probably only happens on machines with
lots of memory.)
-Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-01-22 21:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-19 3:26 PPC Lockup (ati-pcigart-branch) Michel Dänzer
2001-01-19 3:55 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-19 6:53 ` [Dri-devel] " Gareth Hughes
2001-01-19 16:48 ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-19 17:24 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-20 0:45 ` Gareth Hughes
2001-01-19 16:40 ` [Dri-devel] " Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-19 17:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-19 22:26 ` Chris Emerson
2001-01-19 22:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-19 23:43 ` Chris Emerson
2001-01-20 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-20 13:21 ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-20 16:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-01-20 17:03 ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-20 2:46 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-20 4:17 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 9:44 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 17:59 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 18:18 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 18:54 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 19:39 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 20:08 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 20:30 ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 21:23 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 23:12 ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-22 21:31 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 21:48 ` Jeff Hartmann [this message]
2001-01-22 22:15 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23 16:14 ` Mike Beede
2001-01-22 22:31 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23 0:24 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23 2:28 ` Takashi Oe
2001-01-23 2:40 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23 4:40 ` Ralph Metzler
2001-01-23 5:48 ` Takashi Oe
2001-01-23 11:24 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-23 0:34 ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-23 0:43 ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-23 11:32 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 20:43 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 21:07 ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 17:33 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 17:38 ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 17:38 ` Gareth Hughes
2001-01-22 17:43 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 18:36 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 18:44 ` Jeff Hartmann
2001-01-22 18:47 ` Michel Dänzer
2001-01-22 21:13 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 21:58 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-22 23:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-01-23 0:13 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-20 13:15 ` Michael Schmitz
2001-01-19 17:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-23 3:34 Iain Sandoe
2001-01-23 6:49 Robert E Brose II
2001-01-23 7:01 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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