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* PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates
@ 2001-08-15 15:27 Cindy Peters
  2001-08-15 16:45 ` Dan Malek
  2001-08-15 19:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Cindy Peters @ 2001-08-15 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org'


Does anyone know approximately what the transfer rates (peak and
sustainable)  would be for a PCMCIA/IDE hard disk on an MPC823?

Thanks,

Cindy Peters

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* Re: PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates
  2001-08-15 15:27 PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates Cindy Peters
@ 2001-08-15 16:45 ` Dan Malek
  2001-08-15 19:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Malek @ 2001-08-15 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cindy Peters; +Cc: 'linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org'


Cindy Peters wrote:
>
> Does anyone know approximately what the transfer rates (peak and
> sustainable)  would be for a PCMCIA/IDE hard disk on an MPC823?

Ummm...slow :-).

It's all programmed I/O, so it depends upon the PCMCIA timing and
the capability of the disk.  People I have talked to that use this
configuration were never concerned about the speed, but rather needed
the additional storage space.  It certainly isn't workstation/server
performance :-).


	-- Dan

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* Re: PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates
  2001-08-15 15:27 PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates Cindy Peters
  2001-08-15 16:45 ` Dan Malek
@ 2001-08-15 19:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2001-08-15 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cindy Peters; +Cc: 'linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org'


In message <41EDEC3C1B88D51186EB00A0C9CFADF702FA44@AMWMAIL> you wrote:
>
> Does anyone know approximately what the transfer rates (peak and
> sustainable)  would be for a PCMCIA/IDE hard disk on an MPC823?

As Dan Malek  already  pointed  out,  all  implementations  that  are
available  to  the  public  so  far suffer from the fact that they're
using PIO.

Here some real-world example:

PPCBoot 1.0.4 (Aug  7 2001 - 00:05:44)

CPU:   PPC823EZTnnB2 at 66 MHz: 16 kB I-Cache 8 kB D-Cache
       Watchdog enabled
DRAM:  16 MB
FLASH: 16 MB
KEYBD: Version 1.0
PCMCIA: 5.0V card found: ARGOSY PnPIDE D5
Bus 0: OK
  Device 0: Model: IBM-DKLA-24320 Firm: KL4AA43A Ser#: YD2YD246800
            Type: Hard Disk
            Capacity: 4126.10 MB = 4.0 GB (8452080 x 512)
...
Linux version 2.4.4 (wd@denx.denx.de) (gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #2 Tue Aug 7 00:17:59 MEST 2001
...
Card ID: ARGOSY PnPIDE D5
hda: probing with STATUS(0x50) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00)
hda: IBM-DKLA-24320, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0xc7006320-0xc7006327,0xc3006106 on irq 13
hda: 8452080 sectors (4327 MB) w/460KiB Cache, CHS=8944/15/63
Partition check:
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
...
root@fast:/# bonnie -d /mnt -s 250 -m MPC823E
File '/mnt/bonnie.87', size: 262144000
Writing with putc()...done
Rewriting...done
Writing intelligently...done
Reading with getc()...done
Reading intelligently...done
Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
              -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
              -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
Machine    MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec %CPU
MPC823E   250   534 90.4  3028 68.6  1533 64.4   542 97.6  3316 94.5  45.2  4.5


Note that this is a normal 2.5" disk drive usually used in laptops  -
quite  slow.  You get somewhat better results with a faster 3.5" disk
drive.

Wolfgang Denk

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* Re: PCMCIA/IDE transfer rates
       [not found] <3B7AD164.790DD47A@mvista.com>
@ 2001-08-15 20:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
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From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2001-08-15 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dan Malek; +Cc: Cindy Peters, 'linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org'


In message <3B7AD164.790DD47A@mvista.com> you wrote:
> Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>
> > Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done...
> >               -------Sequential Output-------- ---Sequential Input-- --Random--
> >               -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks---
> > Machine    MB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec %CPU
> > MPC823E   250   534 90.4  3028 68.6  1533 64.4   542 97.6  3316 94.5  45.2  4.5
> >
> > Note that this is a normal 2.5" disk drive usually used in laptops  -
> > quite  slow.
>
> Well, actually quite respectable for PIO.  I'm not sure my G4 runs
> much faster in PIO mode :-).

Well, it's a 823-E (big caches) running at 66 MHz (both CPU  and  bus
clock). I have slower systems (like MPC850), too :-(

Wolfgang Denk

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