From: Mark Hatle <fray@mvista.com>
To: "Dr. Craig Hollabaugh" <craig@hollabaugh.com>
Cc: Mark Pilon <mark.pilon@minolta-qms.com>,
linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: init fails w/ new build of gcc & glibc
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 17:22:25 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3B7D9921.8CB7F6AE@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5.1.0.14.0.20010817160848.00abfec0@spudcentral.com
> Mark,
>
> You mentioned these two exclusive ABIs a couple days ago. If you want to compile the
> toolchain and the kernel correctly to insure run-time compatibility (in my case for 8xx),
> would you do this
>
> for kernel fp emulation
> compile kernel with CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y, (do you use -msoft-float while compiling
> kernel?)
> then compile the toolchain without -msoft-float
Use the kernel parameters as they stand, I wouldn't mess with them....
(floating point is not supposed to happen in the kernel anyway, and when
it does it's almost always assembly that is trapped anyway.)
> or
>
> for soft-floating point - no kernel emulation
> compile kernel CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set (do you use -msoft-float while compiling kernel?)
> then compile the toolchain with -msoft-float
Basically.. One thing to keep in mind on the 8xx (due to cache line
size) it'll never truely be compatable with the rest of the PPC world.
But on a processor like the 405 it "can be" compatable using the
CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION. The catch is that you have a lot more overhead
doing emulation.... (The emulation itself is pretty fast, certainly no
slower then the software code invoked in -msoft-float..) However, you
have much more context switching over head and possible cache
invalidation. Also, your software could be using floating point
registers w/o you expliciting using float's or double's due to gcc
optimizations to argument passing. All in all you will have a penalty
for using hard floating point on a soft-floating point architecture.
This is the reason that MontaVista has chosen to go the route of
soft-float...
--Mark
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-08-17 22:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-08-17 20:47 init fails w/ new build of gcc & glibc Mark Pilon
2001-08-17 21:48 ` Mark Hatle
2001-08-17 22:16 ` Dr. Craig Hollabaugh
2001-08-17 22:22 ` Mark Hatle [this message]
2001-08-17 22:28 ` Joe Green
2001-08-17 22:54 ` Dr. Craig Hollabaugh
2001-08-17 23:15 ` Mark Hatle
2001-08-17 23:29 ` Dr. Craig Hollabaugh
2001-08-17 21:50 ` Joe Green
2001-08-17 22:07 ` Dr. Craig Hollabaugh
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