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From: Mark Salisbury <mbs@mc.com>
To: Brad Boyer <flar@pants.nu>
Cc: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux/PPC Development <linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: Re: ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 14:32:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3BAA363B.5010400@mc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20010920171002.37DCA2B54A@marcus.pants.nu


Brad Boyer wrote:

>>>>>question 4. assuming I was willing to deliver a clean, complete LE
>>>>>enabling patch (including devices that are relevant to me), as a compile
>>>>>time config option and maintain that patch, what would be the primary
>>>>>obstacle to inclusion in the main line.
>>>>>
>>>>The objection to being an arch that attempts to support both LE and BE.
>>>>
>>>Note that we already have a precedent: mips and mipsel, both in arch/mips/.
>>>
>>And SH too, iirc.  I know it can be done.  But do we want to do it is the
>>question.
>>
>
> At least in the case of SH, there's a good reason. There's an external pin
> that controls the native endianness of the processor, and most setups just
> have it forcibly pulled high or low. I suspect the MIPS is the same reason,
> since it's used in similar situations. We don't have that excuse with ppc.
> Someone would have to come up with an excuse along the lines of "existing
> hardware won't work unless we do this" like it would have been for SH.
> (I had to work with the SH4e as used by Sega in the Dreamcast...)


well, this is in the context of a multi-CPU type (x86/ppc, sparc/ppc,
ppc/ppc, mips/ppc) shared memory multicomputer.

when dealing w/ direct mapped, shared memory, uniformity of endian-ness
makes many multicomputer problems easier to solve.(not to mention easier
for the customer to program...)




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  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-20 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-20 15:42 ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers) Mark Salisbury
2001-09-20 15:58 ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 16:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-20 16:12     ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 17:10       ` Brad Boyer
2001-09-20 18:32         ` Mark Salisbury [this message]
2001-09-20 19:29           ` Holger Bettag
2001-09-20 19:35             ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-20 20:19             ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-21  1:46               ` Timothy A. Seufert
2001-09-21  3:54                 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21  7:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21  7:47                     ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21  7:50                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21  8:19                         ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 17:01                   ` Ralph Blach
2001-09-21 17:35                     ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-21 18:58                     ` David Edelsohn
2001-09-21 20:22                     ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 20:29                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-09-21 20:42                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-09-21  7:22                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-09-21  9:26               ` keyb Giuliano Pochini
2001-09-21 10:38             ` ppc LE questions (seeking help hand info pointers) Ralph Blach
2001-09-20 20:01           ` Tony Mantler
2001-09-20 18:28   ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-20 19:12     ` Tom Rini
2001-09-20 22:22 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21  5:45 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-09-28  6:37 ` Paul Mackerras
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-09-21  5:28 Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-21  6:10 ` Dan Malek
2001-09-21 10:59   ` Ralph Blach
2001-09-21 18:48 Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-22  0:22 ` Timothy A. Seufert
2001-09-22 20:06   ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-09-24 17:10   ` Mark Salisbury
2001-09-22 14:23 ` Holger Bettag
2001-09-22 20:26   ` Timothy A. Seufert

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