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From: Dan Malek <dan@embeddededge.com>
To: Jerry Van Baren <vanbaren_gerald@si.com>
Cc: linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: custom mpc8240 student project (long)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:16:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C77EA8C.20505@embeddededge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5.1.0.14.2.20020222070057.01f28df8@falcon.si.com


Jerry Van Baren wrote:


> I suspect that it's about sanity preservation, not control.

This is exactly the reason and all semiconductor companies do this.
They use the NDA as a mechanism to track who may be calling for support,
not to necessarily protect any information.  This is done for several
categories of features, not only the COP (in the case of Motorola).

> By the way, the 3rd party tool costs are NOT astronomical.  Entry level is
> $50 for a BDM4GDB, $150 for a Macraiger Wiggler.

For BDM devices, yes.  The COP tools are usually more expensive, except in
the case of more flexible tools like those from Abatron where the hardware
cost can be amortized across a wide range of devices.  Due to the complexity
of COP, I think everyone uses some kind of hardware acceleration just to
make it usable.  You have to be moving bits at megabit speeds to make
reasonable progress with COP, especially when you are debugging operating
systems with MMUs and caches enabled on the processor.

Of course, for those of us that work for a living, these tools can pay for
themselves in a matter of hours :-).


	-- Dan


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-23 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-21 20:12 custom mpc8240 student project (long) Kerl, John
2002-02-21 20:32 ` Jim Thompson
2002-02-21 22:40   ` Ron Bianco
2002-02-22  9:32 ` Geir Frode Raanes
2002-02-22 13:09   ` Jerry Van Baren
2002-02-23 19:16     ` Dan Malek [this message]
2002-02-25 12:18     ` Geir Frode Raanes
2002-02-27 11:46       ` Christian Pellegrin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-22 18:33 Kerl, John
2002-02-22 20:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-02-22  1:11 Dustin Byford
2002-02-22  1:07 Dustin Byford
     [not found] <7E8519F1A7C0D211B0D200A0C93AA60F08447D20@ntmail.iskratel.si>
2002-02-18 21:17 ` Dustin Byford
2002-02-18 21:44   ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]     ` <auto-000008693306@zipmail.com>
2002-02-18 22:32       ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-02-19 11:40       ` Jerry Van Baren
2002-02-19 16:53         ` Bob Piatek
2002-02-20  2:32       ` Greg Griffes
2002-02-18 10:33 Dustin Byford

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