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From: Dan Malek <dan@embeddededge.com>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: First cut at large page support on 40x
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:28:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D07E743.6090206@embeddededge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 15623.56408.342901.245259@argo.ozlabs.ibm.com


Paul Mackerras wrote:

> This is an issue which is much wider than the question of what the PPC
> port should do.  The linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org list is the
> appropriate place to discuss this sort of thing.

Yeah, right :-)  I can't bear the signal to noise ratio out there :-)

> The PCI DMA API is designed so that drivers never need to translate
> between virtual and physical addresses themselves.  Our API for local
> peripherals on embedded chips should do the same.

As far as I know, they do.  Just call consistent_alloc() and keep track
of the addresses.  At the time I implemented consistent_alloc(), I
updated all drivers I could test (and some that I couldn't :-) to do this.
At the time, there were PCI drivers on 4xx and 8xx that didn't do the
right thing with the pci_* functions, so I had to keep some kind of mapping
to make them work.

> "Well don't do that then" :)  If you are calling pci_map_single on a
> vmalloc'd address you are living dangerously even if virt_to_* does
> use iopa, since vmalloc'd memory is not physically contiguous.
>
>
>>doing this or are they doing it correctly?  I don't know, but I do know
>>if they call these functions we better return the right answer.
>
>
> Hitting a BUG() would be more appropriate in these cases.

I know, but the higher level functions are sufficiently disjoint that you
can't keep context across them to know if someone is doing something bad.
I guess we could just check for an address in the VMALLOC space and not
translate that, but then I'll get criticized for adding code into that
fast virt_to_* path :-)  You also don't know, in the case of noncoherent
processors, that the virtual mapping you received is from a 'vmalloc'
space, even though it was done properly for DMA.  It's one thing to call
vmalloc() and try to do DMA, and it's another to use an alternate mapping
to properly implement a feature under a standard interface.

So, just toss iopa(), use the macros in their standard way, and see how
long we run before the system crashes (SCSI drivers, eepro100,... :-)


	-- Dan

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-13  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-31  4:21 First cut at large page support on 40x David Gibson
2002-05-31  4:31 ` David Gibson
2002-06-04  0:43 ` Dan Malek
2002-06-04  3:59   ` David Gibson
2002-06-04 17:42     ` Dan Malek
2002-06-05  0:10       ` David Gibson
2002-06-05 17:25         ` Dan Malek
2002-06-06  1:35           ` David Gibson
2002-06-06  4:57             ` Dan Malek
2002-06-05 22:29       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-06  4:48         ` Dan Malek
2002-06-06  5:44           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-06  7:58             ` Dan Malek
2002-06-06  8:17               ` David Gibson
2002-06-12  3:52               ` David Gibson
2002-06-12  6:15                 ` Dan Malek
2002-06-12  6:43                   ` David Gibson
2002-06-12 15:19                     ` Tom Rini
2002-06-12 23:23                     ` Dan Malek
2002-06-12 23:42                       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-13  0:28                         ` Dan Malek [this message]
2002-06-13  1:01                           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-13  4:16                             ` Dan Malek
2002-06-13  5:12                               ` David Gibson
2002-06-13  7:26                                 ` Dan Malek
2002-06-13  1:38                       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-06-13  4:47                         ` Dan Malek
2002-06-13 18:13                     ` Armin
2002-06-14  0:33                       ` David Gibson
2002-06-12 23:49                   ` Paul Mackerras

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