2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Christian Kujau]

hi,

after more days of compiling (at least now i know my ppc has good RAM
:-) ) and testing serveral kernels, i think now it's not a
network-related but a ppc-specific problem.

Andrew Morton gave me the hint to just copy drivers/net/tulip/ from the
working 2.5.30 kernel to a recent one. i've done so; i've copied all
tulip stuff to a fresh 2.6.0-test11 kernel, after booting i was able to
load the module, but a following "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" freezed the
machine -- as every kernel after 2.5.30 i was able to compile.

a fix from Jeff Garzik went to linuxppc-dev (i saw it on lkml too),
subject was "2.6 PReP fix? (Was: [jgarzik@pobox.com: [PATCH/CFT] de2104x
fixes])". i found out, that i can load 3 different modules for my card:

00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
[FasterNet] (rev 22)
         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
         I/O ports at 1800 [size=128]
         Memory at c300a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
         Expansion ROM at c1040000 [disabled] [size=256K]


/lib/modules/2.6.0-test11/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
de2104x.ko  de4x5.ko  tulip.ko

/lib/modules/2.5.30/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
de2104x.o  de4x5.o  tulip.o

and every module gave me a freeze with 2.6.0-test11 (oh, i forgot to
test, if de2104x.o and de4x5.o are working correctly with 2.5.30 since
i've used always "tulip")

and so, this makes me think it's a ppc-specific problem. no, i don't say
it's easier now to fix, perhaps it's even harder, because a lot has
changed in the ppc port too. if we could blame the device-driver, the
codesize to play with would be a lot smaller...

but since really no other PReP people complain, i think i'll stay with
2.4. a while. the machine is not that fast and i need a faster one anyway...

Thank you for your time,
Christian.
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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:21:10 +0100
Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de> wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> after more days of compiling (at least now i know my ppc has good RAM
> :-) ) and testing serveral kernels, i think now it's not a
> network-related but a ppc-specific problem.
>
> Andrew Morton gave me the hint to just copy drivers/net/tulip/ from the
> working 2.5.30 kernel to a recent one. i've done so; i've copied all
> tulip stuff to a fresh 2.6.0-test11 kernel, after booting i was able to
> load the module, but a following "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" freezed the
> machine -- as every kernel after 2.5.30 i was able to compile.
>
> a fix from Jeff Garzik went to linuxppc-dev (i saw it on lkml too),
> subject was "2.6 PReP fix? (Was: [jgarzik@pobox.com: [PATCH/CFT] de2104x
> fixes])". i found out, that i can load 3 different modules for my card:
>
> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
> [FasterNet] (rev 22)
>          Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
>          I/O ports at 1800 [size=128]
>          Memory at c300a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
>          Expansion ROM at c1040000 [disabled] [size=256K]
>
>
> /lib/modules/2.6.0-test11/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
> de2104x.ko  de4x5.ko  tulip.ko
>
> /lib/modules/2.5.30/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
> de2104x.o  de4x5.o  tulip.o
>
> and every module gave me a freeze with 2.6.0-test11 (oh, i forgot to
> test, if de2104x.o and de4x5.o are working correctly with 2.5.30 since
> i've used always "tulip")
>
> and so, this makes me think it's a ppc-specific problem. no, i don't say
> it's easier now to fix, perhaps it's even harder, because a lot has
> changed in the ppc port too. if we could blame the device-driver, the
> codesize to play with would be a lot smaller...
>
> but since really no other PReP people complain, i think i'll stay with
> 2.4. a while. the machine is not that fast and i need a faster one
> anyway...
>

I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got absolutely
no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola powerstack
(II) mobo.

> Thank you for your time,
> Christian.
> --
> BOFH excuse #389:
>
> /dev/clue was linked to /dev/null
>
>
>


--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Christian Kujau]

Remco Post wrote:
> I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got absolutely

did you get any further?
i saw one of your posts:
http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-38/0289.html

yes, the "not-compiling" issues during 2.5.3x. 2.5.38 is only compiling
a "vmlinux.gz", but no zImage.prep here. and this vmlinux.gz is
worthless. do you mind sending in your fix?

> no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola powerstack
> (II) mobo.

root@sheep:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
cpu             : 604r
clock           : ???
revision        : 49.2 (pvr 0009 3102)
bogomips        : 299.00
machine         : PReP Utah (Powerstack II Pro4000)
l2 cache        : 512KiB, parity disabled SRAM:synchronous, pipelined,
no parity


....from ebay :-)


Christian.
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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 15:23:22 +0100
Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de> wrote:

>
> Remco Post wrote:
> > I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got
> > absolutely
>
> did you get any further?
> i saw one of your posts:
> http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-38/0289.html
>
> yes, the "not-compiling" issues during 2.5.3x. 2.5.38 is only compiling
> a "vmlinux.gz", but no zImage.prep here. and this vmlinux.gz is
> worthless. do you mind sending in your fix?
>

I didn't fix a thing. At least, not that I recall. The later kernels
2.5.5something and up compiled but crashed as soon as there was any status
change on the utp, disconnecting the cable would crash the kernel. Didn't
look at that for a long time (months)....

> > no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola powerstack
> > (II) mobo.
>
> root@sheep:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor       : 0
> cpu             : 604r
> clock           : ???
> revision        : 49.2 (pvr 0009 3102)
> bogomips        : 299.00
> machine         : PReP Utah (Powerstack II Pro4000)
> l2 cache        : 512KiB, parity disabled SRAM:synchronous, pipelined,
> no parity
>
>
> ....from ebay :-)
>
>
> Christian.
> --
> BOFH excuse #375:
>
> Root name servers corrupted.
>
>
>


--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Tom Rini]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Remco Post wrote:
>
> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:21:10 +0100
> Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de> wrote:
>
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > after more days of compiling (at least now i know my ppc has good RAM
> > :-) ) and testing serveral kernels, i think now it's not a
> > network-related but a ppc-specific problem.
> >
> > Andrew Morton gave me the hint to just copy drivers/net/tulip/ from the
> > working 2.5.30 kernel to a recent one. i've done so; i've copied all
> > tulip stuff to a fresh 2.6.0-test11 kernel, after booting i was able to
> > load the module, but a following "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" freezed the
> > machine -- as every kernel after 2.5.30 i was able to compile.
> >
> > a fix from Jeff Garzik went to linuxppc-dev (i saw it on lkml too),
> > subject was "2.6 PReP fix? (Was: [jgarzik@pobox.com: [PATCH/CFT] de2104x
> > fixes])". i found out, that i can load 3 different modules for my card:
> >
> > 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140
> > [FasterNet] (rev 22)
> >          Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
> >          I/O ports at 1800 [size=128]
> >          Memory at c300a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
> >          Expansion ROM at c1040000 [disabled] [size=256K]
> >
> >
> > /lib/modules/2.6.0-test11/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
> > de2104x.ko  de4x5.ko  tulip.ko
> >
> > /lib/modules/2.5.30/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
> > de2104x.o  de4x5.o  tulip.o
> >
> > and every module gave me a freeze with 2.6.0-test11 (oh, i forgot to
> > test, if de2104x.o and de4x5.o are working correctly with 2.5.30 since
> > i've used always "tulip")
> >
> > and so, this makes me think it's a ppc-specific problem. no, i don't say
> > it's easier now to fix, perhaps it's even harder, because a lot has
> > changed in the ppc port too. if we could blame the device-driver, the
> > codesize to play with would be a lot smaller...
> >
> > but since really no other PReP people complain, i think i'll stay with
> > 2.4. a while. the machine is not that fast and i need a faster one
> > anyway...
> >
>
> I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got absolutely
> no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola powerstack
> (II) mobo.

I suppose part of the problem is that my PowerStack (Series E) doesn't
have any problems. :)

What I've just done is put up all of the patches I have pending to try
and get into 2.6.0, once Linus either becomes more open to !ia32 patches
or Andrew Morton takes over.  They're over at:
http://stop.crashing.org:16080/~trini/

The combination of 011 and 012 should allow for kgdb to work on any PReP
box, and this should help people debug problems, if they have the time.

--
Tom Rini
http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/

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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Monday, Dec 1, 2003, at 20:16 Europe/Amsterdam, Tom Rini wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Remco Post wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:21:10 +0100
>> Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> after more days of compiling (at least now i know my ppc has good RAM
>>> :-) ) and testing serveral kernels, i think now it's not a
>>> network-related but a ppc-specific problem.
>>>
>>> Andrew Morton gave me the hint to just copy drivers/net/tulip/ from
>>> the
>>> working 2.5.30 kernel to a recent one. i've done so; i've copied all
>>> tulip stuff to a fresh 2.6.0-test11 kernel, after booting i was able
>>> to
>>> load the module, but a following "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" freezed
>>> the
>>> machine -- as every kernel after 2.5.30 i was able to compile.
>>>
>>> a fix from Jeff Garzik went to linuxppc-dev (i saw it on lkml too),
>>> subject was "2.6 PReP fix? (Was: [jgarzik@pobox.com: [PATCH/CFT]
>>> de2104x
>>> fixes])". i found out, that i can load 3 different modules for my
>>> card:
>>>
>>> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip
>>> 21140
>>> [FasterNet] (rev 22)
>>>          Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
>>>          I/O ports at 1800 [size=128]
>>>          Memory at c300a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
>>>          Expansion ROM at c1040000 [disabled] [size=256K]
>>>
>>>
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.0-test11/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
>>> de2104x.ko  de4x5.ko  tulip.ko
>>>
>>> /lib/modules/2.5.30/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
>>> de2104x.o  de4x5.o  tulip.o
>>>
>>> and every module gave me a freeze with 2.6.0-test11 (oh, i forgot to
>>> test, if de2104x.o and de4x5.o are working correctly with 2.5.30
>>> since
>>> i've used always "tulip")
>>>
>>> and so, this makes me think it's a ppc-specific problem. no, i don't
>>> say
>>> it's easier now to fix, perhaps it's even harder, because a lot has
>>> changed in the ppc port too. if we could blame the device-driver, the
>>> codesize to play with would be a lot smaller...
>>>
>>> but since really no other PReP people complain, i think i'll stay
>>> with
>>> 2.4. a while. the machine is not that fast and i need a faster one
>>> anyway...
>>>
>>
>> I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got
>> absolutely
>> no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola
>> powerstack
>> (II) mobo.
>
> I suppose part of the problem is that my PowerStack (Series E) doesn't
> have any problems. :)
>

I just booted my powermac 8500 to build a new kernel (test11). after
that's finished, I'll see if I can reproduce the problem...

> What I've just done is put up all of the patches I have pending to try
> and get into 2.6.0, once Linus either becomes more open to !ia32
> patches
> or Andrew Morton takes over.  They're over at:
> http://stop.crashing.org:16080/~trini/
>
> The combination of 011 and 012 should allow for kgdb to work on any
> PReP
> box, and this should help people debug problems, if they have the time.
>
> --
> Tom Rini
> http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/
>
--
Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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industry
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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Monday, Dec 1, 2003, at 20:16 Europe/Amsterdam, Tom Rini wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:11:19PM +0100, Remco Post wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:21:10 +0100
>> Christian Kujau <evil@g-house.de> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> after more days of compiling (at least now i know my ppc has good RAM
>>> :-) ) and testing serveral kernels, i think now it's not a
>>> network-related but a ppc-specific problem.
>>>
>>> Andrew Morton gave me the hint to just copy drivers/net/tulip/ from
>>> the
>>> working 2.5.30 kernel to a recent one. i've done so; i've copied all
>>> tulip stuff to a fresh 2.6.0-test11 kernel, after booting i was able
>>> to
>>> load the module, but a following "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" freezed
>>> the
>>> machine -- as every kernel after 2.5.30 i was able to compile.
>>>
>>> a fix from Jeff Garzik went to linuxppc-dev (i saw it on lkml too),
>>> subject was "2.6 PReP fix? (Was: [jgarzik@pobox.com: [PATCH/CFT]
>>> de2104x
>>> fixes])". i found out, that i can load 3 different modules for my
>>> card:
>>>
>>> 00:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip
>>> 21140
>>> [FasterNet] (rev 22)
>>>          Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
>>>          I/O ports at 1800 [size=128]
>>>          Memory at c300a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
>>>          Expansion ROM at c1040000 [disabled] [size=256K]
>>>
>>>
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.0-test11/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
>>> de2104x.ko  de4x5.ko  tulip.ko
>>>
>>> /lib/modules/2.5.30/kernel/drivers/net/tulip:
>>> de2104x.o  de4x5.o  tulip.o
>>>
>>> and every module gave me a freeze with 2.6.0-test11 (oh, i forgot to
>>> test, if de2104x.o and de4x5.o are working correctly with 2.5.30
>>> since
>>> i've used always "tulip")
>>>
>>> and so, this makes me think it's a ppc-specific problem. no, i don't
>>> say
>>> it's easier now to fix, perhaps it's even harder, because a lot has
>>> changed in the ppc port too. if we could blame the device-driver, the
>>> codesize to play with would be a lot smaller...
>>>
>>> but since really no other PReP people complain, i think i'll stay
>>> with
>>> 2.4. a while. the machine is not that fast and i need a faster one
>>> anyway...
>>>
>>
>> I stopped complaining a while back (2.5.60 something) since I got
>> absolutely
>> no response. I'm one of the lucky (?) few who have a motorola
>> powerstack
>> (II) mobo.
>
> I suppose part of the problem is that my PowerStack (Series E) doesn't
> have any problems. :)
>
> What I've just done is put up all of the patches I have pending to try
> and get into 2.6.0, once Linus either becomes more open to !ia32
> patches
> or Andrew Morton takes over.  They're over at:
> http://stop.crashing.org:16080/~trini/
>
> The combination of 011 and 012 should allow for kgdb to work on any
> PReP
> box, and this should help people debug problems, if they have the time.
>
>

Ok, this is what happes. This is a stock 2.6.0-test11 kernel, .config
at the end,

the kernel boots ok, and properly configures it's ip via dhcp. I can
log in, the ethernet driver complains about link going up, and again up
and maybe even a few times more. Then when I do a ping to the default
gw (which does answer to ping) no reply's. Disconnecting the ethernet
cable yields the following:

flops:~# ping 172.16.5.1
PING 172.16.5.1 (172.16.5.1): 56 data bytes

--- 172.16.5.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
flops:~# eth0: link down
eth0: timeout expired stopping DMA
kernel BUG in de_set_media at drivers/net/tulip/de2104x.c:926!
Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 5 [#1]
NIP: C01517B4 LR: C0151AF4 SP: C02DBDF0 REGS: c02dbd40 TRAP: 0700    Not
tainted
MSR: 00029032 EE: 1 PR: 0 FP: 0 ME: 1 IR/DR: 11
TASK = c02711e0[0] 'swapper' Last syscall: 120
GPR00: FC120000 C02DBDF0 C02711E0 C0447A00 3F4A2FED 3B9ACA00 C0300040
C031AA0C
GPR08: C031AA08 00120000 00000008 C5000E80 FCC6954E 00000000 00000000
00000000
GPR16: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
00000000
GPR24: 00000000 00000000 00000002 00001032 C0447800 00009032 FFFFFFCE
C0447A00
Call trace:
  [c0151af4] de21040_media_timer+0x12c/0x1c8
  [c0021970] run_timer_softirq+0x168/0x1ac
  [c001cb5c] do_softirq+0x88/0xfc
  [c00080b4] timer_interrupt+0x284/0x298
  [c00060ec] ret_from_except+0x0/0x14
  [c0007e2c] cpu_idle+0x34/0x38
  [c00038d8] rest_init+0x24/0x34
  [c02dc520] start_kernel+0x130/0x144
  [00003564] 0x3564
Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
In interrupt handler - not syncing


remco@pipmac:/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test11$ cat .config
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_HAVE_DEC_LOCK=y
CONFIG_PPC=y
CONFIG_PPC32=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
# CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
# CONFIG_MODULES is not set

#
# Processor
#
CONFIG_6xx=y
# CONFIG_40x is not set
# CONFIG_44x is not set
# CONFIG_POWER3 is not set
# CONFIG_POWER4 is not set
# CONFIG_8xx is not set
# CONFIG_ALTIVEC is not set
# CONFIG_TAU is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set
# CONFIG_PPC601_SYNC_FIX is not set
CONFIG_PPC_STD_MMU=y

#
# Platform options
#
CONFIG_PPC_MULTIPLATFORM=y
# CONFIG_APUS is not set
# CONFIG_WILLOW is not set
# CONFIG_PCORE is not set
# CONFIG_POWERPMC250 is not set
# CONFIG_EV64260 is not set
# CONFIG_SPRUCE is not set
# CONFIG_LOPEC is not set
# CONFIG_MCPN765 is not set
# CONFIG_MVME5100 is not set
# CONFIG_PPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_PRPMC750 is not set
# CONFIG_PRPMC800 is not set
# CONFIG_SANDPOINT is not set
# CONFIG_ADIR is not set
# CONFIG_K2 is not set
# CONFIG_PAL4 is not set
# CONFIG_GEMINI is not set
# CONFIG_EST8260 is not set
# CONFIG_SBS8260 is not set
# CONFIG_RPX6 is not set
# CONFIG_TQM8260 is not set
CONFIG_PPC_CHRP=y
CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y
CONFIG_PPC_PREP=y
CONFIG_PPC_OF=y
CONFIG_PPCBUG_NVRAM=y
# CONFIG_SMP is not set
# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
CONFIG_PROC_DEVICETREE=y
CONFIG_PPC_RTAS=y
CONFIG_PREP_RESIDUAL=y
# CONFIG_PROC_PREPRESIDUAL is not set
CONFIG_CMDLINE_BOOL=y
CONFIG_CMDLINE="console=ttyS0,9600 root=/dev/sda2"

#
# Bus options
#
# CONFIG_ISA is not set
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_DOMAINS=y
# CONFIG_PCI_LEGACY_PROC is not set
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y

#
# PCMCIA/CardBus support
#
# CONFIG_PCMCIA is not set

#
# Parallel port support
#
CONFIG_PARPORT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=y
# CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO=y
# CONFIG_PARPORT_OTHER is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y

#
# Advanced setup
#
CONFIG_ADVANCED_OPTIONS=y
CONFIG_HIGHMEM_START=0xfe000000
# CONFIG_LOWMEM_SIZE_BOOL is not set
CONFIG_LOWMEM_SIZE=0x30000000
# CONFIG_KERNEL_START_BOOL is not set
CONFIG_KERNEL_START=0xc0000000
# CONFIG_TASK_SIZE_BOOL is not set
CONFIG_TASK_SIZE=0x80000000
CONFIG_BOOT_LOAD=0x00800000

#
# Generic Driver Options
#
# CONFIG_FW_LOADER is not set

#
# Memory Technology Devices (MTD)
#
# CONFIG_MTD is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DAC960 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set
# CONFIG_LBD is not set

#
# Multi-device support (RAID and LVM)
#
# CONFIG_MD is not set

#
# ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support
#
# CONFIG_IDE is not set

#
# SCSI device support
#
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y

#
# SCSI support type (disk, tape, CD-ROM)
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST is not set
# CONFIG_CHR_DEV_OSST is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR is not set
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y

#
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
# CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_REPORT_LUNS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CONSTANTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_LOGGING is not set

#
# SCSI low-level drivers
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_3W_XXXX_RAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ACARD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AACRAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_AIC79XX is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_ADVANSYS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MEGARAID is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_SATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_CPQFCTS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IPS is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_INIA100 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_PPA is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_IMM is not set
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_2=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DMA_ADDRESSING_MODE=0
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=16
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=64
# CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_IOMAPPED is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_ISP is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_FC is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLOGIC_1280 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DC395x is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NSP32 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MESH is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_MAC53C94 is not set

#
# Fusion MPT device support
#
# CONFIG_FUSION is not set

#
# IEEE 1394 (FireWire) support (EXPERIMENTAL)
#
# CONFIG_IEEE1394 is not set

#
# I2O device support
#
# CONFIG_I2O is not set

#
# Networking support
#
CONFIG_NET=y

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
# CONFIG_PACKET_MMAP is not set
# CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
# CONFIG_NET_KEY is not set
CONFIG_INET=y
CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_MROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_ARPD is not set
# CONFIG_INET_ECN is not set
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_INET_AH is not set
# CONFIG_INET_ESP is not set
# CONFIG_INET_IPCOMP is not set

#
# IP: Virtual Server Configuration
#
# CONFIG_IP_VS is not set
CONFIG_IPV6=y
# CONFIG_IPV6_PRIVACY is not set
# CONFIG_INET6_AH is not set
# CONFIG_INET6_ESP is not set
# CONFIG_INET6_IPCOMP is not set
# CONFIG_IPV6_TUNNEL is not set
# CONFIG_DECNET is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
CONFIG_NETFILTER=y
# CONFIG_NETFILTER_DEBUG is not set

#
# IP: Netfilter Configuration
#
CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=y
# CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_IRC is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_AMANDA is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE is not set
CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LIMIT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_IPRANGE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MAC is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_PKTTYPE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MARK is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TOS is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_RECENT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ECN is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_DSCP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_AH_ESP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LENGTH is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TCPMSS is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_HELPER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_STATE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNTRACK is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_FILTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_LOG is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ULOG is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TCPMSS is not set
# CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPTABLES is not set

#
# IPv6: Netfilter Configuration
#
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_QUEUE is not set
CONFIG_IP6_NF_IPTABLES=y
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_LIMIT is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MAC is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_RT is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_OPTS is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_FRAG is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_HL is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_OWNER is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_MARK is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_IPV6HEADER is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_AHESP is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_LENGTH is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MATCH_EUI64 is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_FILTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP6_NF_MANGLE is not set

#
# SCTP Configuration (EXPERIMENTAL)
#
CONFIG_IPV6_SCTP__=y
# CONFIG_IP_SCTP is not set
# CONFIG_ATM is not set
# CONFIG_VLAN_8021Q is not set
# CONFIG_LLC2 is not set
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_NET_DIVERT is not set
# CONFIG_ECONET is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set

#
# QoS and/or fair queueing
#
# CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set

#
# Network testing
#
# CONFIG_NET_PKTGEN is not set
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y

#
# ARCnet devices
#
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
# CONFIG_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_BONDING is not set
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
# CONFIG_TUN is not set

#
# Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)
#
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_MII is not set
# CONFIG_MACE is not set
# CONFIG_BMAC is not set
# CONFIG_OAKNET is not set
# CONFIG_HAPPYMEAL is not set
# CONFIG_SUNGEM is not set
CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM=y
CONFIG_VORTEX=y
# CONFIG_TYPHOON is not set

#
# Tulip family network device support
#
CONFIG_NET_TULIP=y
CONFIG_DE2104X=y
# CONFIG_TULIP is not set
# CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set
# CONFIG_WINBOND_840 is not set
# CONFIG_DM9102 is not set
# CONFIG_HP100 is not set
# CONFIG_NET_PCI is not set

#
# Ethernet (1000 Mbit)
#
# CONFIG_ACENIC is not set
# CONFIG_DL2K is not set
# CONFIG_E1000 is not set
# CONFIG_NS83820 is not set
# CONFIG_HAMACHI is not set
# CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set
# CONFIG_R8169 is not set
# CONFIG_SIS190 is not set
# CONFIG_SK98LIN is not set
# CONFIG_TIGON3 is not set

#
# Ethernet (10000 Mbit)
#
# CONFIG_IXGB is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_HIPPI is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set

#
# Wireless LAN (non-hamradio)
#
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set

#
# Token Ring devices
#
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FC is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set
# CONFIG_SHAPER is not set

#
# Wan interfaces
#
# CONFIG_WAN is not set

#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set

#
# IrDA (infrared) support
#
# CONFIG_IRDA is not set

#
# Bluetooth support
#
# CONFIG_BT is not set

#
# ISDN subsystem
#
# CONFIG_ISDN_BOOL is not set

#
# Graphics support
#
# CONFIG_FB is not set

#
# Console display driver support
#
# CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE is not set
# CONFIG_MDA_CONSOLE is not set
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y

#
# Input device support
#
CONFIG_INPUT=y

#
# Userland interfaces
#
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1024
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=768
# CONFIG_INPUT_JOYDEV is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_TSDEV is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_EVBUG is not set

#
# Input I/O drivers
#
# CONFIG_GAMEPORT is not set
CONFIG_SOUND_GAMEPORT=y
CONFIG_SERIO=y
CONFIG_SERIO_I8042=y
CONFIG_SERIO_SERPORT=y
# CONFIG_SERIO_CT82C710 is not set
# CONFIG_SERIO_PARKBD is not set
# CONFIG_SERIO_PCIPS2 is not set

#
# Input Device Drivers
#
# CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_JOYSTICK is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN is not set
# CONFIG_INPUT_MISC is not set

#
# Macintosh device drivers
#
# CONFIG_ADB_CUDA is not set
# CONFIG_ADB_PMU is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_FLOPPY is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_ADB is not set

#
# Character devices
#
CONFIG_VT=y
CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set

#
# Serial drivers
#
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=4
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_EXTENDED=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_MANY_PORTS is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SHARE_IRQ=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_MULTIPORT is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RSA is not set

#
# Non-8250 serial port support
#
CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_CORE_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_PMACZILOG is not set
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTY_COUNT=256
# CONFIG_PRINTER is not set
# CONFIG_PPDEV is not set
# CONFIG_TIPAR is not set

#
# I2C support
#
# CONFIG_I2C is not set

#
# I2C Algorithms
#

#
# I2C Hardware Bus support
#

#
# I2C Hardware Sensors Chip support
#
# CONFIG_I2C_SENSOR is not set

#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set

#
# IPMI
#
# CONFIG_IPMI_HANDLER is not set

#
# Watchdog Cards
#
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
CONFIG_NVRAM=y
# CONFIG_GEN_RTC is not set
# CONFIG_DTLK is not set
# CONFIG_R3964 is not set
# CONFIG_APPLICOM is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set
# CONFIG_AGP is not set
# CONFIG_DRM is not set
# CONFIG_RAW_DRIVER is not set

#
# Multimedia devices
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set

#
# Digital Video Broadcasting Devices
#
# CONFIG_DVB is not set

#
# File systems
#
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR is not set
# CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set
# CONFIG_JBD is not set
CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
# CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set
# CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO is not set
# CONFIG_JFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set

#
# CD-ROM/DVD Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UDF_FS is not set

#
# DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set

#
# Pseudo filesystems
#
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_PROC_KCORE=y
# CONFIG_DEVFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y
# CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS_XATTR is not set
CONFIG_TMPFS=y
# CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE is not set
CONFIG_RAMFS=y

#
# Miscellaneous filesystems
#
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_BEFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_CRAMFS is not set
# CONFIG_VXFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Network File Systems
#
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
CONFIG_NFS_V4=y
# CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO is not set
CONFIG_NFSD=y
CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y
CONFIG_NFSD_V4=y
CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y
CONFIG_LOCKD=y
CONFIG_LOCKD_V4=y
CONFIG_EXPORTFS=y
CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
CONFIG_SUNRPC_GSS=y
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_CIFS is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
# CONFIG_INTERMEZZO_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFS_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED=y
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ATARI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_SUBPARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_NEC98_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ULTRIX_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_EFI_PARTITION is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# USB support
#
# CONFIG_USB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set

#
# Library routines
#
CONFIG_CRC32=y

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_DEBUG_KERNEL=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SLAB is not set
# CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_SLEEP is not set
# CONFIG_KGDB is not set
# CONFIG_XMON is not set
# CONFIG_BDI_SWITCH is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
CONFIG_BOOTX_TEXT=y

#
# Security options
#
# CONFIG_SECURITY is not set

#
# Cryptographic options
#
# CONFIG_CRYPTO is not set
remco@pipmac:/usr/src/linux-2.6.0-test11$

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Met vriendelijke groeten,

Remco Post

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High Performance Computing  Tel. +31 20 592 8008    Fax. +31 20 668 3167

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computer
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industry
didn't even foresee that the century was going to end." -- Douglas Adams


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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Monday, Dec 1, 2003, at 23:24 Europe/Amsterdam, Remco Post wrote:
> flops:~# ping 172.16.5.1
> PING 172.16.5.1 (172.16.5.1): 56 data bytes
>


ow, btw, I lied, my mobo is a blackhawk (powerstack) with a 127MHz PPC
604, it used to be a node in an experimental parsytec parallel system
running aix 3 (yikes)

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High Performance Computing  Tel. +31 20 592 8008    Fax. +31 20 668 3167

"I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the
computer
industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer
industry
didn't even foresee that the century was going to end." -- Douglas Adams


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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Christian Kujau]

Remco Post wrote:
> flops:~# ping 172.16.5.1
> PING 172.16.5.1 (172.16.5.1): 56 data bytes
>
> --- 172.16.5.1 ping statistics ---
> 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
> flops:~# eth0: link down
> eth0: timeout expired stopping DMA
> kernel BUG in de_set_media at drivers/net/tulip/de2104x.c:926!

so you really have a de2104x card. and your problems differ from mine,
as i never got any Oopses.

did you try Jeff Garzik's fixes for this driver?

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=106950312306991&w=2

they were for some -test9-bk tree, but neither the -test10 nor the
-test11 ChangeLog says something about the fixes, so i think they are
still pending.

> CONFIG_PPC_CHRP=y
> CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y
> CONFIG_PPC_PREP=y
> CONFIG_PPC_OF=y

how many archs do you want to boot at once? :-)


Thanks,
Christian.
--
BOFH excuse #233:

TCP/IP UDP alarm threshold is set too low.


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Re: 2.6 PReP issues, still freezing

[Remco Post]

On Tuesday, Dec 2, 2003, at 00:17 Europe/Amsterdam, Christian Kujau
wrote:
>
> so you really have a de2104x card. and your problems differ from mine,
> as i never got any Oopses.
>
> did you try Jeff Garzik's fixes for this driver?
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=106950312306991&w=2
>


I did just know... oops....

> they were for some -test9-bk tree, but neither the -test10 nor the
> -test11 ChangeLog says something about the fixes, so i think they are
> still pending.
>
>> CONFIG_PPC_CHRP=y
>> CONFIG_PPC_PMAC=y
>> CONFIG_PPC_PREP=y
>> CONFIG_PPC_OF=y
>
> how many archs do you want to boot at once? :-)
>


you know... cp ../<oldkernel>/.config .; yes "" | make oldconfig; make

I don't really notice my config... And it doesn't really matter. I'll
trim it down a bit, just to be sure....

>
> Thanks,
> Christian.
> --
> BOFH excuse #233:
>
> TCP/IP UDP alarm threshold is set too low.
>
>
>
>
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industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer
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