From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: consolidate mpc83xx platform files
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:30:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <457F1F6E.4020502@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1165890570.11914.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> Well, either you want all freescale boards have one platform.
> in which case you write one ppc_md() structure, call it
> mpc83xx_fslboards or something like that, and have a probe routine that
> test for all matches, or create as many ppc_md structures as you have
> boards each with it's own probe().
>
> The point here is that other developpers making their own mpc83xx based
> boards will not want to use your ppc_md.
They *may* not want to (and they certainly shouldn't be forced to), but
some may not want to define a new ppc_md (or modify a probe function)
for every new board if all of the differences are encapsulated in the
device tree. I thought one of the main goals of having a device tree is
that if it's done right, the kernel need not know about every single
model of board, just the different components that a device tree can
specify.
If a board has truly board-specific logic that needs custom code in the
kernel itself (rather than the bootloader), then it can go in as a
driver with a device tree node (this should be done with the BCSR stuff
where needed).
What about something like the original patch, but with "mpc83xx-generic"
(or similar) as the compatible match? This would address the "matches
everything with mpc83xx in it" concern, without requiring kernel changes
when a new device tree is all that's really needed, and without
requiring non-freescale boards to have something like "fslboards" in the
compatible property just in order to use generic platform
initialization code *if they want to*. Once the BCSR and RTC stuff is
(re)moved, there's really not much of anything fslboard-specific in there.
More generally (and longer-term), what about a completely generic
platform init file that implements the "booting-without-of.txt"
platform? That is, a string that can be placed in the compatible
property, regardless of board or CPU, in order to assert that nothing
board-specific has to be done other than as specified by the device
tree. The model property could still hold the actual board ID if needed
to present to the user, or for matching a more specialized machine
description if problems arise and the device tree cannot be easily
changed (the generic probe could be arranged to run last).
Alternately, just allow the kernel to boot without finding a matching
probe, if generic code is able to extract enough information from the
device tree for generic versions of any non-optional ppc_md functions to
work. If a probe does match, then it can fill in any ppc_md fields it
wants to override (and/or do special initialization, etc). ppc_md
fields can also be filled in by CPU-specific code, or by drivers the
device tree instantiates.
-Scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-12-12 21:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-09 1:07 [PATCH] powerpc: consolidate mpc83xx platform files Kim Phillips
2006-12-09 7:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-11 3:41 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-11 21:51 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-11 22:08 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 2:10 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 2:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12 2:31 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 21:30 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2006-12-12 21:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12 22:06 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:24 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:28 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:38 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-12 22:51 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 22:40 ` Scott Wood
2006-12-13 0:23 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-13 5:25 ` Geoff Thorpe
2006-12-13 6:07 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-13 17:48 ` Geoff Thorpe
2006-12-13 18:21 ` Kim Phillips
2006-12-13 21:13 ` Dan Malek
2006-12-12 22:03 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-12 22:41 ` Scott Wood
2006-12-12 22:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-13 0:20 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-18 5:17 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-12-18 17:04 ` Kumar Gala
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-12 17:36 Kim Phillips
2006-12-12 18:03 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-14 1:04 Kim Phillips
2006-12-15 16:09 ` Kumar Gala
2006-12-15 17:23 ` Dan Malek
2006-12-18 21:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-15 17:59 ` Olof Johansson
2006-12-16 1:31 ` Stephen Rothwell
2006-12-18 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-18 21:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-18 14:44 Joakim Tjernlund
2006-12-18 16:51 ` Olof Johansson
2006-12-19 21:30 Kim Phillips
2006-12-19 22:19 ` Ben Warren
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