From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses().
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:13:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46029D17.5030304@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070322000620.GC2295@localhost.localdomain>
David Gibson wrote:
> I mean, does the u-boot source tree have its own copies of the dts
> files which are built into a dtb during the u-boot build process?
No.
> Or
> do you take the dts from the kernel tree and make the dtb from that
> when you build a dtb aware u-boot for a particular machine?
You don't build the DTB with U-Boot. You build the DTB completely separately from U-Boot.
As far as U-Boot concerned, until you actually boot the kernel, the DTB is just another
binary blob.
> Yes, but if have a version of u-boot that *only* sets mac-address and
> not local-mac-address, doing so would clobber the only information
> about the MAC address we have.
That's true.
> In any case, I don't think is relevant
> for discussion of this function, because its only designed for use
> with *non* device tree aware firmware.
Ok.
> In terms of the generated dtb output there is no difference. Well,
> probably. It would It's
> purely syntactic sugar / internal documentation.
Then I suggest we just leave the compiler as is, and just update the U-Boot documentation
to specify what it does with the various device tree properties.
>> In both cases, the property exists in the DTS. The whole point was to
>> remove it from the DTS entirely,
>
> Well, no. You wanted to get rid of the property from the dts, I
> didn't. What I'm suggesting here is an idea to addresses at least one
> possible objection to having the properties in the dts: the fact that
> with actual values there it looks like the tree is complete and it
> might not be obvious that a bootloader *must* tweak values to produce
> a working tree.
Hmmm... I can understand that. But I still think documenting it in U-Boot is the easier
solution.
> I think it's useful to document in the dts that certain properties are
> expected to be there, even if their actual values have to be
> determined during boot.
The only problem with this is that the list of properties needed/used by U-Boot can change
from one version of U-Boot to another, and I'd hate to have to update all of the DTS files
every time this happens.
For instance,
> It has the nice additional
> property that it lets the bootloader avoid extra memmove()s and
> possibly string table scans.
True, but I don't see why we should go through such an effort to avoid these things.
Besides, JVB is almost done getting libfdt into U-Boot, and that should make all this moot.
--
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-22 15:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-16 17:26 [PATCH 00/17] bootwrapper/cuImage patches Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] bootwrapper: Make ft_create_node() pay attention to the parent parameter Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:23 ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_ops methods Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:24 ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] bootwrapper: Add xlate_reg(), and use it to find serial registers Scott Wood
2007-03-20 3:50 ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 16:34 ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21 3:12 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 16:01 ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21 19:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] bootwrapper: Make compression of the kernel image optional Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:25 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:03 ` Patch: " Milton Miller
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 05/17] bootwrapper: misc device tree fixes Scott Wood
2007-03-21 1:51 ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 16:22 ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23 3:26 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:22 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 06/17] Document the linux,network-index property Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:26 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:30 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 14:48 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-03-21 18:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-22 0:29 ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:11 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 3:19 ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 11:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 23:59 ` David Gibson
2007-03-24 0:23 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 15:00 ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23 16:42 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 07/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_memory(), to fill in the /memory node Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:26 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 23:42 ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:02 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 3:24 ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 6:49 ` Stefan Roese
2007-03-23 7:40 ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 12:34 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 08/17] bootwrapper: Make setprop accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:27 ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 09/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_cpu_clocks() Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:28 ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses() Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:31 ` David Gibson
2007-03-18 0:22 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-18 11:56 ` David Gibson
2007-03-19 15:09 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-20 3:59 ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 14:00 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 2:54 ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:01 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 15:25 ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-03-21 15:55 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22 0:06 ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 15:13 ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2007-03-22 15:15 ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-23 3:22 ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 14:38 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:37 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:42 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:54 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 23:17 ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 18:17 ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-21 13:45 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:15 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:10 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:34 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:39 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:48 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:03 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 20:22 ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21 21:58 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 21:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:34 ` Doug Maxey
2007-03-21 22:01 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 13:38 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:09 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 11/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline non-static, and accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17 1:36 ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 12/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline() create /chosen if it doesn't exist Scott Wood
2007-03-21 13:32 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 13/17] bootwrapper: Add ppcboot.h Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 14/17] bootwrapper: Add support for cuboot platforms Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 15/17] bootwrapper: Add cmd_wrap_dt Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 16/17] bootwrapper: Add a cuImage target Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 17/17] bootwrapper: cuboot for 83xx Scott Wood
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