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From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses().
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:13:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46029D17.5030304@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070322000620.GC2295@localhost.localdomain>

David Gibson wrote:

> I mean, does the u-boot source tree have its own copies of the dts
> files which are built into a dtb during the u-boot build process?  

No.

> Or
> do you take the dts from the kernel tree and make the dtb from that
> when you build a dtb aware u-boot for a particular machine?

You don't build the DTB with U-Boot.  You build the DTB completely separately from U-Boot. 
  As far as U-Boot concerned, until you actually boot the kernel, the DTB is just another 
binary blob.

> Yes, but if have a version of u-boot that *only* sets mac-address and
> not local-mac-address, doing so would clobber the only information
> about the MAC address we have. 

That's true.

> In any case, I don't think is relevant
> for discussion of this function, because its only designed for use
> with *non* device tree aware firmware.

Ok.

> In terms of the generated dtb output there is no difference.  Well,
> probably.  It would It's
> purely syntactic sugar / internal documentation.

Then I suggest we just leave the compiler as is, and just update the U-Boot documentation 
to specify what it does with the various device tree properties.

>> In both cases, the property exists in the DTS.  The whole point was to 
>> remove it from the DTS entirely, 
> 
> Well, no.  You wanted to get rid of the property from the dts, I
> didn't.  What I'm suggesting here is an idea to addresses at least one
> possible objection to having the properties in the dts: the fact that
> with actual values there it looks like the tree is complete and it
> might not be obvious that a bootloader *must* tweak values to produce
> a working tree.

Hmmm... I can understand that.  But I still think documenting it in U-Boot is the easier 
solution.

> I think it's useful to document in the dts that certain properties are
> expected to be there, even if their actual values have to be
> determined during boot. 

The only problem with this is that the list of properties needed/used by U-Boot can change 
from one version of U-Boot to another, and I'd hate to have to update all of the DTS files 
every time this happens.

For instance,

> It has the nice additional
> property that it lets the bootloader avoid extra memmove()s and
> possibly string table scans.

True, but I don't see why we should go through such an effort to avoid these things. 
Besides, JVB is almost done getting libfdt into U-Boot, and that should make all this moot.

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-16 17:26 [PATCH 00/17] bootwrapper/cuImage patches Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 01/17] bootwrapper: Make ft_create_node() pay attention to the parent parameter Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:23   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 02/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_ops methods Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:24   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 03/17] bootwrapper: Add xlate_reg(), and use it to find serial registers Scott Wood
2007-03-20  3:50   ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 16:34     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21  3:12       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:49     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 16:01       ` Scott Wood
2007-03-21 19:11         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:27 ` [PATCH 04/17] bootwrapper: Make compression of the kernel image optional Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:25   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:03   ` Patch: " Milton Miller
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 05/17] bootwrapper: misc device tree fixes Scott Wood
2007-03-21  1:51   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 16:22     ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23  3:26       ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:22   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 06/17] Document the linux,network-index property Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:30   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 14:48     ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-03-21 18:57       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-22  0:29         ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:11           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23  3:19             ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 11:36               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 23:59                 ` David Gibson
2007-03-24  0:23                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 15:00         ` Scott Wood
2007-03-23 16:42           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 07/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_memory(), to fill in the /memory node Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:26   ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 13:32     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 23:42       ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 11:02         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23  3:24           ` David Gibson
2007-03-23  6:49             ` Stefan Roese
2007-03-23  7:40               ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 12:34             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 08/17] bootwrapper: Make setprop accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:27   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 09/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_cpu_clocks() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:28   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 10/17] bootwrapper: Add dt_set_mac_addresses() Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:31   ` David Gibson
2007-03-18  0:22     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-18 11:56       ` David Gibson
2007-03-19 15:09         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-20  3:59           ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 14:00             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21  2:54               ` David Gibson
2007-03-21 15:01                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 15:25                   ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-03-21 15:55                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-22  0:06                   ` David Gibson
2007-03-22 15:13                     ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2007-03-22 15:15                     ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-23  3:22                       ` David Gibson
2007-03-23 14:38                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:37                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:42                             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 16:51                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-23 16:54                                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-23 23:17                             ` David Gibson
2007-03-20 18:17           ` Jon Loeliger
2007-03-21 13:45           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:15             ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:07               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:10                 ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:34                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 19:39                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 19:48                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:03                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-21 20:22                           ` Olof Johansson
2007-03-21 21:58                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 21:54                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 20:34                         ` Doug Maxey
2007-03-21 22:01                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 13:38         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-21 15:09           ` Timur Tabi
2007-03-16 17:28 ` [PATCH 11/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline non-static, and accept a const buffer Scott Wood
2007-03-17  1:36   ` David Gibson
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 12/17] bootwrapper: Make set_cmdline() create /chosen if it doesn't exist Scott Wood
2007-03-21 13:32   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 13/17] bootwrapper: Add ppcboot.h Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 14/17] bootwrapper: Add support for cuboot platforms Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 15/17] bootwrapper: Add cmd_wrap_dt Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 16/17] bootwrapper: Add a cuImage target Scott Wood
2007-03-16 17:29 ` [PATCH 17/17] bootwrapper: cuboot for 83xx Scott Wood

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