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From: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/3] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1in QE, register mmc_spi stub
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 08:55:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46DC126C.9060603@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac803797588b40e3d33bbd6f758a5663@kernel.crashing.org>

Segher Boessenkool wrote:

> Not at all.  The device tree describe how the hardware _is_
> set up (after firmware, bootloader etc.); now how it _should
> be_ set up by the kernel.

I agree with this general sentiment, but in the case of QE pin configuration, 
then device tree, in a sense, does contain how the hardware is set up.  The 
par_io section in the device tree describes they layout of the wiring between 
the SOC and peripherals.  If the par_io registers are not programmed 
correctly, the SOC won't be able to communicate with the peripheral.

Sure, the kernel currently reads the device tree and programs the par_io 
registers accordingly, but that doesn't mean the information *shouldn't* be in 
the device tree.

> It would make a lot of sense to do this work in the firmware
> instead, but it doesn't make sense at all to put this stuff
> into the device tree.

1) If the firmware does configure the pins, then the device tree *will* 
describe how the hardware is set up.

2) How would the firmware know how to do board configuration if it doesn't 
have the instructions in the device tree?

Besides, every other board does it's par_io configuration based on the device 
tree.  So if Anton is going to break that pattern, we should be talking about 
moving all that code into U-boot, instead of just putting in a one-time 
exception (especially since the patch contains no explanation as to why these 
par_io pins are being configured differently than every other board).

-- 
Timur Tabi
Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-03 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-21 13:45 [PATCH v4 0/2] SPI support for fsl_soc and mpc832x_rdb Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-21 13:47 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] [POWERPC] fsl_soc: add support for fsl_spi Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-21 13:47 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1 in QE, register mmc_spi stub Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-21 15:27 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] SPI support for fsl_soc and mpc832x_rdb Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-21 15:29   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] [POWERPC] fsl_soc: add support for fsl_spi Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-22 14:24     ` Kumar Gala
2007-08-21 15:29   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1 in QE, register mmc_spi stub Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-22 14:25     ` Kumar Gala
2007-08-22 14:22   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] SPI support for fsl_soc and mpc832x_rdb Kumar Gala
2007-08-22 14:54     ` [PATCH v6 " Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-22 14:57       ` [PATCH v6 1/2] [POWERPC] fsl_soc: add support for fsl_spi Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-23  3:24         ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-08-23 11:33           ` [PATCH v7 0/3] " Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-23 11:35             ` [PATCH v7 1/3] [POWERPC] QE lib: extern par_io_config_pin and par_io_data_set funcs Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-23 11:35             ` [PATCH v7 2/3] [POWERPC] fsl_soc: add support for fsl_spi Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-23 11:36             ` [PATCH v7 3/3] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1 in QE, register mmc_spi stub Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-30 21:06               ` Timur Tabi
2007-08-31 13:50                 ` [PATCH v7 3/3] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1in " Li Yang-r58472
2007-09-01 23:59                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-03 13:55                     ` Timur Tabi [this message]
2007-09-03 15:13                       ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-09-03 23:17                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-04 10:47                           ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-09-04 18:20                             ` Scott Wood
2007-09-04 20:15                               ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-09-05 11:40                               ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-09-05 13:21                                 ` Scott Wood
2007-09-07  1:15                                   ` David Gibson
2007-09-07  1:28                                     ` Timur Tabi
2007-09-06 14:25                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 14:19                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 14:35                               ` Timur Tabi
2007-09-03 23:12                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-04  3:16                         ` Timur Tabi
2007-09-06 14:13                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-06 14:19                             ` Scott Wood
2007-09-06 14:29                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-09-07  3:37                             ` David Gibson
2007-08-22 14:57       ` [PATCH v6 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1 in " Anton Vorontsov
2007-08-22 15:01       ` [PATCH v6 0/2] SPI support for fsl_soc and mpc832x_rdb Kumar Gala
2007-08-22 15:13         ` Anton Vorontsov

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