From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from az33egw02.freescale.net (az33egw02.freescale.net [192.88.158.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "az33egw02.freescale.net", Issuer "Thawte Premium Server CA" (verified OK)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3542DDEB9 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:28:07 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <46E0A953.8080202@freescale.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:28:51 -0500 From: Timur Tabi MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Wood , Anton Vorontsov , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Timur Tabi Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/3] [POWERPC] MPC832x_RDB: update dts to use SPI1in QE, register mmc_spi stub References: <46D73166.6080103@freescale.com> <989B956029373F45A0B8AF02970818900147BD4D@zch01exm26.fsl.freescale.net> <46DC126C.9060603@freescale.com> <20070903151319.GA24840@localhost.localdomain> <20070904104750.GA32451@localhost.localdomain> <20070904182028.GC18280@ld0162-tx32.am.freescale.net> <20070905114023.GA4072@localhost.localdomain> <20070905132106.GB24637@ld0162-tx32.am.freescale.net> <20070907011553.GO26079@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20070907011553.GO26079@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , David Gibson wrote: > Firmwares are, more often than not, crap, and that's unlikely to > change. For a lot of things, having the kernel or bootwrapper cope as > a special case with a handful of crap firmwares which don't set things > up properly isn't actually any easier than having it set them up > itself, always. Similarly, firmware is very often unlikely to be updated. So we need to support situations where we use old firmware with new kernels. The cuImage support is a classic example of this. Moving code from kernel to firmware just because some people think it belongs in the firmware is usually impractical. If we added code to U-Boot today to configure the par_io pins, it would probably still be years before we could safely remove that code from the kernel. -- Timur Tabi Linux Kernel Developer @ Freescale