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From: Jerry Van Baren <gvb.linuxppc.dev@gmail.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] Use embedded libfdt in the bootwrapper
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:52:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4733AF6B.60807@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <473392A3.4010203@freescale.com>

Scott Wood wrote:
> David Gibson wrote:
>>> How hard would it be to get libfdt to dynamically allocate any extra space
>>> it needs?  This is a regression from the current flat device tree code...
>> Uh.. it already does.  Or rather, the shims in libfdt-wrapper.c do so,
>> when libfdt functions which can expand the tree report that they've
>> run out of room.
> 
> Ah, good -- I was looking in libfdt itself, not the wrapper.  Now if 
> only we could get something similar into u-boot... maybe libfdt proper 
> could accept an optional realloc() function pointer in fdt_init(), and 
> eliminate the need for the caller to provide such a wrapper?
> 
> -Scott

Hi Scott,

My concern from the u-boot side is that u-boot has to know exactly 
*where* to put the expanded blob because it has to pass it to linux and 
keep it out of linux' way so it doesn't get "stepped on."  Linux has an 
advantage in that it "owns" all of memory and can allocate and 
deallocate whatever and wherever and it won't step on itself (hopefully).

I'm assuming your boot wedge has the advantage of being able to use 
linux's malloc() and thus don't have to worry about coordinating with 
linux on memory allocation.

With the current u-boot fdt command, you can resize the blob, and this 
can be done in a script with all the (somewhat limited) capabilities of 
the u-boot shell (an adaptation of hush).

In the u-boot world, we fixate on memory maps and putting things in 
specific places.  Maybe I'm making a problem where one doesn't exist, 
but an arbitrary malloc() in u-boot (as opposed to linux's malloc) seems 
like a Bad Thing[tm] because it is uncontrolled and may end up in a very 
bad place when linux starts (e.g. the linux start up script expands 
linux on top of the blob).

Best regards,
gvb

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-09  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-08  3:32 [0/4] Embed dtc and libfdt in the kernel David Gibson
2007-11-08  3:36 ` [PATCH 2/4] Use embedded dtc in kernel builds David Gibson
2007-11-08  3:36 ` [PATCH 4/4] Kill flatdevtree.c David Gibson
2007-11-08 14:27   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-11-08  3:36 ` [PATCH 3/4] Use embedded libfdt in the bootwrapper David Gibson
2007-11-08 16:08   ` Scott Wood
2007-11-08 22:40     ` David Gibson
2007-11-08 22:50       ` Scott Wood
2007-11-08 23:29         ` David Gibson
2007-11-09  0:52         ` Jerry Van Baren [this message]
2007-11-09 15:59           ` Scott Wood
2007-11-10  1:14             ` Jerry Van Baren
2007-11-08  3:38 ` [1/4] Merge dtc and libfdt upstream source David Gibson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-11-12  4:11 [0/4] Embed dtc and libfdt in the kernel (spin the third) David Gibson
2007-11-12  4:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] Use embedded libfdt in the bootwrapper David Gibson
2007-12-03  4:30   ` David Gibson

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