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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Yoder Stuart-B08248" <stuart.yoder@freescale.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>, paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [patch 29/30] PS3: Device tree source.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:36:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <480f44878c42c1dc6452233f9e21d663@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9696D7A991D0824DBA8DFAC74A9C5FA302F33549@az33exm25.fsl.freescale.net>

>> "compatible" is only needed if your "name" is bogus, or your
>> machine _actually_ is 100% compatible to some other machine.
>
> Segher,
>
> I don't understand this if we are following the 'Generic Names'
> recommendation (which I thought we were).

Yes, we should follow that recommended practice.

> Guideline 1: "name" property values must be generic, reflecting
> the device's function, but not necessarily its precise programming
> model.

Yes -- a short clear name that makes device tree paths
easily readable (and easy to type ;-) ) for human beings.

> Guideline 2: The "compatible" property must be present.

...if "name" doesn't perform the same function yet, which
of course is almost always.

> Its first
> component should be an explicit, unique name that identifies the
> device precisely enough to be able to infer the detailed programming
> model from that name. The format of that explicit name is
> manufacturer,model,...

Yep.  You understand "generic names" just fine.

> I read that and my understand is that _compatible_ is required
> and specifies the precise programming model.  name is supposed
> to be generic-- currently booting-without-of.txt says the
> property is optional because the name can be inferred from
> the node name which should be generic.

"node name" in flat device trees doesn't allow a proper
"name" property to exist for the root node.  This is a
bug in the flat device tree tools, and either should be
fixed, or this should be clearly documented as a divergence
from "real" OF.

"name" of the root node is a bit special, since it is
never displayed as part of a device path or used for
device selection (instead, "/" at start of a path is
handled specially, just like on unix filesystems).

Since anything that matches for "compatible" entries
also first should check the "name" contents, it should
be okay for flat device trees to have the information
that could/should be in "name" in "compatible", instead.

Does this answer all questions / clarify my position
on all this?

Cheers,


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-14 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20070612181825.730300780@am.sony.com>
2007-06-12 18:42 ` [patch 01/30] Cell: Add spu shutdown method Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:43 ` [patch 02/30] PS3: Rename IPI symbols Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:43 ` [patch 03/30] PS3: Use __maybe_unused Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:43 ` [patch 04/30] PS3: Compare firmware version Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:43 ` [patch 05/30] PS3: Use ioremap_flags Geoff Levand
2007-06-13  9:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-14  1:42     ` Geoff Levand
2007-06-14  2:31   ` Takao Shinohara
2007-06-14 19:03   ` [patch 05/30 v2] " Geoff Levand
2007-06-14 23:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-12 18:43 ` [patch 06/30] PS3: Fix sparse warnings Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:44 ` [patch 07/30] PS3: Add support for HDMI RGB Full Range mode Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:44 ` [patch 08/30] PS3: Move chip mask defs up Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:44 ` [patch 09/30] PS3: Use inline DBG Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:44 ` [patch 10/30] PS3: Kexec support Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:52 ` [patch 11/30] PS3: System-bus rework Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:52 ` [patch 12/30] PS3: System-bus uevent Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:52 ` [patch 13/30] PS3: System-bus modinfo attribute Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 14/30] PS3: Repository probe cleanups Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 15/30] PS3: Vuart rework Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 16/30] PS3: System manager re-work Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 17/30] PS3: Rework AV settings driver Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 18/30] PS3: Frame buffer system-bus rework Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 19/30] PS3: Device registration routines Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:53 ` [patch 20/30] PS3: Rename processor id symbols Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 21/30] PS3: Use clear_bit Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 22/30] Powerpc: Output params value in early_init_devtree Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 23/30] powerpc: Localize mmu_off Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 24/30] powerpc: Correct __secondary_hold comment Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 25/30] Powerpc: Add signed types to bootwrapper Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 26/30] Powerpc: Add u64 printf " Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 27/30] Powerpc: Fix constantness of bootwrapper arg Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 28/30] powerpc: Bootwrapper global scope kernel_entry_t Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:54 ` [patch 29/30] PS3: Device tree source Geoff Levand
2007-06-13  4:52   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  8:40     ` Olaf Hering
2007-06-13  9:05       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 11:24         ` Olaf Hering
2007-06-13 11:59           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 12:28             ` Olaf Hering
2007-06-13 13:51               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 16:04                 ` Olaf Hering
2007-06-13 13:43             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-13 13:52               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 14:09                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-13 14:18                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 14:20                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-13 17:36             ` Geoff Levand
2007-06-13 22:42         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-14  7:31           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 10:11             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-14 10:25               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 17:35       ` Geoff Levand
2007-06-13 18:18         ` Olaf Hering
2007-06-13 22:46           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-14  7:32             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 14:39               ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-06-14 15:36                 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-14 15:53                   ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2007-06-15  8:32                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  0:16                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-15  8:37                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13 22:44         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-14  1:31     ` Geoff Levand
2007-06-14  7:39       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14  1:31   ` [patch 29/30 v2] " Geoff Levand
2007-06-14  7:55     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-14 17:05       ` Geoff Levand
2007-06-12 18:55 ` [patch 30/30] PS3: Bootwrapper support Geoff Levand

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