From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from az33egw01.freescale.net (az33egw01.freescale.net [192.88.158.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "az33egw01.freescale.net", Issuer "Thawte Premium Server CA" (verified OK)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61E13DEFDF for ; Sat, 24 May 2008 07:13:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <4837339F.9060407@freescale.com> Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:14:07 -0500 From: Scott Wood MIME-Version: 1.0 To: benh@kernel.crashing.org Subject: Re: MMIO and gcc re-ordering (Was: [PATCH] [POWERPC] Improve (in|out)_beXX() asm code) References: <4833524C.3040207@freescale.com> <20080520.153947.84346222.davem@davemloft.net> <4833542E.3040608@freescale.com> <20080520.155326.195407196.davem@davemloft.net> <1211516683.8297.271.camel@pasglop> <1211546197.8297.308.camel@pasglop> <1211547016.8297.310.camel@pasglop> In-Reply-To: <1211547016.8297.310.camel@pasglop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Miller , linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Linus Torvalds , Trent Piepho , alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 08:36 -0400, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: >> - mandate some kind of dma_sync_for_device/cpu on consistent memory. >> Almost no driver do that currently tho. They only do that for non >> consistent memory mapped with dma_map_*. >> >> - mandate the use of wmb,rmb,mb barriers for use between memory >> accesses and MMIOs for ordering them. (ie. fix drivers that don't do >> it). Advantage for powerpc is that I can remove (after some auditing of >> course) the added heavy barriers in the MMIO accessors themselves. > > Note that the above is my preferred approach, and a lot of drivers > happen to already do this. As Trent pointed out, if you change to eieio in the accessors, that'd require drivers to also use mmiowb() before spin_unlock(), which fewer drivers currently do. >> - stick a full memory clobber in all MMIO (and PIO) accessors on all >> archs. I like this, combined with introducing raw variants of the non-PCI accessors (in_be32 and such). It's slower and safe by default (i.e. no auditing drivers), but performance-critical paths can be optimized to use raw accessors combined with explicit barriers. -Scott