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Wed, 17 Jun 2026 20:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2026 10:55:54 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: Carsten Strotmann cc: Jakub Kicinski , Carsten Strotmann , John Paul Adrian Glaubitz , davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, pabeni@redhat.com, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch, horms@kernel.org, geert@linux-m68k.org, chleroy@kernel.org, npiggin@gmail.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, maddy@linux.ibm.com, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/2] appletalk: move the protocol out of tree In-Reply-To: <1781694488854.956546368.818588236@strotmann.de> Message-ID: <489024bc-b6e5-f601-3bce-444d75abbf5d@linux-m68k.org> References: <20260616084901.3319d82e@kernel.org> <1781694488854.956546368.818588236@strotmann.de> X-Mailing-List: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Archive: , List-Subscribe: , , List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 17 Jun 2026, Carsten Strotmann wrote: > > _Someone_ has to handle the reports and patches. And since nobody is > > doing that the code is going to GitHub, where it can continue to "just > > be left" or whatever, without racking up CVEs for the Linux kernel and > > leading to maintainer burn out :/ > > > > That's a good point. The large influx of reports is a problem, and burn > out of maintainers is a too high cost. > Carsten, if, as a maintainer, you want to avoid burnout then 1) don't promise what you can't deliver (that is, decline sponsorship) 2) delegate (that is, leverage AI as an ally not as a lame excuse) So the question remains: what is it which _can_ be delivered by and for the "community" (by which I mean, that group of people which includes actual end users -- not merely paying customers and sponsored developers). This question has precious little to do with burnout, but it's the question we need to address.