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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	Liam R Howlett <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Christophe Leroy <chleroy@kernel.org>,
	aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/49] mm/sparse: fix vmemmap accounting imbalance on memory hotplug error
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 22:16:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48CF5603-D8E1-4C86-8554-E8BA03D195FB@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9642F4D9-8F1B-47A4-90BE-C72BB8DE9A11@linux.dev>



> On Apr 13, 2026, at 22:05, Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 21:36, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Muchun,
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 08:47:45PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 20:05, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c b/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>>>>>>>>>> index 6eadb9d116e4..ee27d0c0efe2 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -822,11 +822,11 @@ static struct page * __meminit section_activate(int nid, unsigned long pfn,
>>>>>>>>>> return pfn_to_page(pfn);
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> memmap = populate_section_memmap(pfn, nr_pages, nid, altmap, pgmap);
>>>>>>>>>> + memmap_pages_add(DIV_ROUND_UP(nr_pages * sizeof(struct page), PAGE_SIZE));
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This logically belongs to success path in populate_section_memmap(). If we
>>>>>>>>> update the counter there, we won't need to temporarily increase it at all.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not strictly related to this patchset, but it seems, we can have a single
>>>>>>>> memmap_boot_pages_add() in memmap_alloc() rather than to update the counter
>>>>>>>> in memmap_alloc() callers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It will indeed become simpler and is a good cleanup direction, but there
>>>>>>> is a slight change in semantics: the page tables used for vmemmap page
>>>>>>> mapping will also be counted in memmap_boot_pages_add(). This might not
>>>>>>> be an issue (after all, the size of the page tables is very small compared
>>>>>>> to struct pages, right?).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Additionally, I still lean toward making no changes to this patch, because
>>>>>>> this is a pure bugfix patch — of course, it is meant to facilitate backporting
>>>>>>> for those who need it. The cleanup would involve many more changes, so I
>>>>>>> prefer to do that in a separate patch. What do you think?
>>>>> 
>>>>> For this patch and easy backporting I still think that cleaner to have the
>>>>> counter incremented in populate_section_memmap() rather immediately after
>>>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> Alright, let’s revisit your solution. After we’ve moved the counter into the
>>> populate_section_memmap(), we still need to increase the counter temporarily
>>> (but in populate_section_memmap()) even if we fail to populate. That’s
>>> because section_deactivate() reduces the counter without exception, isn’t it?
>>> Just want to make sure we are on the same page on the meaning of “temporarily
>>> increase”.  Maybe you do not mean “temporarily” in this case.
>> 
>> I suggest to increase the counter only if we succeeded to populate:
>> 
>> diff --git a/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c b/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>> index 6eadb9d116e4..247fd54f1003 100644
>> --- a/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>> +++ b/mm/sparse-vmemmap.c
>> @@ -656,7 +656,13 @@ static struct page * __meminit populate_section_memmap(unsigned long pfn,
>>       unsigned long nr_pages, int nid, struct vmem_altmap *altmap,
>>       struct dev_pagemap *pgmap)
>> {
>> -    return __populate_section_memmap(pfn, nr_pages, nid, altmap, pgmap);
>> +    struct page *p = __populate_section_memmap(pfn, nr_pages, nid, altmap,
>> +                           pgmap);
>> +
>> +    if (p)
>> +        memmap_pages_add(DIV_ROUND_UP(nr_pages * sizeof(struct page), PAGE_SIZE));
> 
> We don’t increase the counter on failure, then
> 
>> +
>> +    return p;
>> }
>> 
>> static void depopulate_section_memmap(unsigned long pfn, unsigned long nr_pages,
>> @@ -826,7 +832,6 @@ static struct page * __meminit section_activate(int nid, unsigned long pfn,
>>       section_deactivate(pfn, nr_pages, altmap);
> 
> here section_deactivate() is called, which decrease the counter unconditionally,
> the issue still exists. We didn't fix anything.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>>       return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
>>   }
>> -    memmap_pages_add(DIV_ROUND_UP(nr_pages * sizeof(struct page), PAGE_SIZE));
>> 
>>   return memmap;
>> }
>> 
>> 
>> Then we'll better follow "all or nothing" principle and won't have
>> exceptional cases in section_deactivate().

To follow  "all or nothing" principle here, I think we should not call
section_deactivate() to do the cleanup in section_activate().

After all, if section_activate() didn't succeed, how can we use
section_deactivate() to release the resources? What do you think?

Thanks.

>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Muchun.
>> 
>> --
>> Sincerely yours,
>> Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-13 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-05 12:51 [PATCH 00/49] mm: Generalize vmemmap optimization for DAX and HugeTLB Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 01/49] mm/sparse: fix vmemmap accounting imbalance on memory hotplug error Muchun Song
2026-04-13  9:19   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13  9:35     ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13  9:49       ` Muchun Song
2026-04-13 12:04         ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13 12:47           ` Muchun Song
2026-04-13 13:35             ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13 14:05               ` Muchun Song
2026-04-13 14:16                 ` Muchun Song [this message]
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 02/49] mm/sparse: add a @pgmap argument to memory deactivation paths Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 03/49] mm/sparse: fix vmemmap page accounting for HVOed DAX Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 04/49] mm/sparse: add a @pgmap parameter to arch vmemmap_populate() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 05/49] mm/sparse: fix missing architecture-specific page table sync for HVO DAX Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 06/49] mm/mm_init: fix uninitialized pageblock migratetype for ZONE_DEVICE compound pages Muchun Song
2026-04-13  9:32   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13 10:07     ` Muchun Song
2026-04-13 13:28       ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-13 13:57         ` Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 07/49] mm/mm_init: use pageblock_migratetype_init_range() in deferred_free_pages() Muchun Song
2026-04-13  9:40   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-05 12:51 ` [PATCH 08/49] mm: Convert vmemmap_p?d_populate() to static functions Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 09/49] mm: panic on memory allocation failure in sparse_init_nid() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 10/49] mm: move subsection_map_init() into sparse_init() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 11/49] mm: defer sparse_init() until after zone initialization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 12/49] mm: make set_pageblock_order() static Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 13/49] mm: integrate sparse_vmemmap_init_nid_late() into sparse_init_nid() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 14/49] mm/cma: validate hugetlb CMA range by zone at reserve time Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 15/49] mm/hugetlb: free cross-zone bootmem gigantic pages after allocation Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 16/49] mm/hugetlb: initialize vmemmap optimization in early stage Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 17/49] mm: remove sparse_vmemmap_init_nid_late() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 18/49] mm/mm_init: make __init_page_from_nid() static Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 19/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remove the VMEMMAP_POPULATE_PAGEREF flag Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 20/49] mm: rename vmemmap optimization macros to generic names Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 21/49] mm/sparse: drop power-of-2 size requirement for struct mem_section Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 22/49] mm/sparse: introduce compound page order to mem_section Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 23/49] mm/mm_init: skip initializing shared tail pages for compound pages Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 24/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: initialize shared tail vmemmap page upon allocation Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 25/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: support vmemmap-optimizable compound page population Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 26/49] mm/hugetlb: use generic vmemmap optimization macros Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 27/49] mm: call memblocks_present() before HugeTLB initialization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 28/49] mm/hugetlb: switch HugeTLB to use generic vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 29/49] mm: extract pfn_to_zone() helper Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 30/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remove unused SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP_PREINIT feature Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 31/49] mm/hugetlb: remove HUGE_BOOTMEM_HVO flag and simplify pre-HVO logic Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 32/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: consolidate shared tail page allocation Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 33/49] mm: introduce CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP_OPTIMIZATION Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 34/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: switch DAX to use generic vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 35/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: introduce section zone to struct mem_section Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 36/49] powerpc/mm: use generic vmemmap_shared_tail_page() in compound vmemmap Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 37/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: unify DAX and HugeTLB vmemmap optimization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 38/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remap the shared tail pages as read-only Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 39/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: remove unused ptpfn argument Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 40/49] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: remove vmemmap_wrprotect_hvo() and related code Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 41/49] mm/sparse: simplify section_vmemmap_pages() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 42/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: introduce section_vmemmap_page_structs() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 43/49] powerpc/mm: rely on generic vmemmap_can_optimize() to simplify code Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 44/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: drop ARCH_WANT_OPTIMIZE_DAX_VMEMMAP and simplify checks Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 45/49] mm/sparse-vmemmap: drop @pgmap parameter from vmemmap populate APIs Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 46/49] mm/sparse: replace pgmap with order and zone in sparse_add_section() Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 47/49] mm: redefine HVO as Hugepage Vmemmap Optimization Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 48/49] Documentation/mm: restructure vmemmap_dedup.rst to reflect generalized HVO Muchun Song
2026-04-05 12:52 ` [PATCH 49/49] mm: consolidate struct page power-of-2 size checks for HVO Muchun Song
2026-04-05 13:34 ` [PATCH 00/49] mm: Generalize vmemmap optimization for DAX and HugeTLB Mike Rapoport
2026-04-06 19:59 ` David Hildenbrand (arm)
2026-04-08 15:29 ` Frank van der Linden

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