From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Ira Snyder <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>
Cc: "linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
Li Yang <leoli@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] fsldma: Add DMA_SLAVE support
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:16:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A3A8463.7080601@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090617182947.GB4707@ovro.caltech.edu>
Ira Snyder wrote:
> I can do something similar by calling device_prep_dma_memcpy() lots of
> times. Once for each page in the scatterlist.
>
> This has the advantage of not changing the DMAEngine API.
>
> This has the disadvantage of not being a single transaction. The DMA
> controller will get an interrupt after each memcpy() transaction, clean
> up descriptors, etc.
>
Why would it need an interrupt per memcpy? There is a
DMA_PREP_INTERRUPT flag to gate interrupt generation to the last
descriptor. This is how async_tx delays callbacks until the last
operation in a chain has completed. Also, I am not currently seeing how
your implementation achieves a single hardware transaction. It still
calls fsl_dma_alloc_descriptor() per address pair?
The api currently allows a call to ->prep_* to generate multiple
internal descriptors for a single input address (i.e. memcpy in the case
where the transfer length exceeds the hardware maximum). The slave api
allows for transfers from a scatterlist to a slave context. I think
what is bothering me is that the fsldma slave implementation is passing
a list of sideband addresses rather than a constant address context like
the existing dw_dmac, so it is different. However, I can now see that
trying to enforce uniformity in this area is counterproductive. The
DMA_SLAVE interface will always have irreconcilable differences across
architectures.
> It also has the disadvantage of not being able to change the
> controller-specific features I'm using: external start. This feature
> lets the "3rd device" control the DMA controller. It looks like the
> atmel-mci driver has a similar feature. The DMAEngine API has no way to
> expose this type of feature except through DMA_SLAVE.
Yeah, an example of an architecture specific quirk that has no chance of
being uniformly handled in a generic api.
> If it is just the 3 helper routines that are the issue with this patch,
> I have no problem dropping them and letting each user re-create them
> themselves.
I think this makes the most sense at this point. We can reserve
judgement on the approach until the next fsldma-slave user arrives and
tries to use this implementation for their device. Can we move the
header file under arch/powerpc/include?
[..]
> A single-transaction scatterlist-to-scatterlist copy would be nice.
>
> One of the major advantages of working with the DMA controller is that
> it automatically handles scatter/gather. Almost all DMA controllers have
> the feature, but it is totally missing from the high-level API.
The engines I am familiar with (ioatdma and iop-adma) still need a
hardware descriptor per address pair I do not see how fsldma does this
any more automatically than those engines? I could see having a helper
routine that does the mapping and iterating, but in the end the driver
still sees multiple calls to ->prep (unless of course you are doing this
in a DMA_SLAVE context, then anything goes).
Thanks,
Dan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-18 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-15 22:56 [RFC PATCH] fsldma: Add DMA_SLAVE support Ira Snyder
2009-06-03 18:10 ` Ira Snyder
2009-06-04 11:20 ` Li Yang-R58472
2009-06-04 16:22 ` Ira Snyder
2009-06-16 19:01 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-16 20:12 ` Ira Snyder
2009-06-17 17:17 ` Dan Williams
2009-06-17 18:29 ` Ira Snyder
2009-06-18 18:16 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2009-06-18 20:50 ` Ira Snyder
2009-06-18 21:36 ` Dan Williams
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