From: Mitch Bradley <wmb@firmworks.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev list <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Clock binding
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:45:25 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A970C85.8090703@firmworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1251411532.20467.74.camel@pasglop>
>
>> > One advantage of indices is that they avoid endless arguments about the
>> > exact name (and spelling) of things.
>>
>
> Right, though in that case, nobody gets to have to decide on the name,
> it comes from the chip manufacturer pin naming or data sheet.
>
>
I agree in general. It has long been a convention of mine to follow the
vendor's names as exactly as possible. But that often presents
difficulties. Many of them have been touched on in our previous
discussion but I'll list some here just to emphasize the problem we face:
a) Inconsistent naming within a vendor's documentation set - datasheet
spells it one way, programmer's manual another, appnotes/porting guide
still another, reference schematic spells it two different ways (pin
name on part versus net name of signal wire).
b) Sometimes the name is abbreviated and sometimes spelled out. SMBALRT
vs. SMbus Alert.
c) Different tools (CAD programs, word processors) have different
conventions leading to existence of ambiguously-representable name
components - particular cases in point are overbars for active low
signals and embedded spaces/underscores/hyphens in names.
d) Compatible part from different vendors leads to confusion about which
vendor's names are canonical. Or leading vendor goes out of business or
gets bought.
These problems are getting worse rapidly as more devices are being
sourced from Asia, where the linguistic connection to the Roman alphabet
is tenuous.
You need a Pope to decide what is canonical.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-27 22:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-18 4:21 [RFC] Clock binding Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-18 7:45 ` [RFC/PATCH] Clock binding prototype implementation Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27 4:09 ` [RFC] Clock binding Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27 5:20 ` Grant Likely
2009-08-27 21:11 ` Mitch Bradley
2009-08-27 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-27 22:28 ` Mitch Bradley
2009-08-27 22:45 ` Mitch Bradley [this message]
2009-08-28 0:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-28 2:36 ` Mitch Bradley
2009-08-28 2:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-28 2:53 ` Michael Ellerman
2009-08-28 10:58 ` Josh Boyer
2009-08-28 11:23 ` David Gibson
2009-08-28 22:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-28 12:16 ` Stuart Yoder
2009-08-28 16:06 ` Grant Likely
2009-08-28 18:05 ` Stuart Yoder
2009-08-28 18:23 ` M. Warner Losh
2009-08-28 20:09 ` Grant Likely
2009-08-31 17:49 ` Stuart Yoder
2009-08-28 18:12 ` Mitch Bradley
2009-08-28 18:24 ` Rafal Jaworowski
2009-08-28 22:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-08-28 16:37 ` Grant Likely
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