From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: PPC: Add generic hpte management functions
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:53:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C27035D.1010604@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1277593118.4200.122.camel@pasglop>
On 06/27/2010 01:58 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
>> Then mmu intensive loads can expect to be slow.
>>
> Well, depends. ppc64 indeed requires the hash to be managed by the
> hypervisor, so inserting or invalidating translations will mean a
> roundtrip to the hypervisor, though there are ways at least the
> insertion could be alleviated (for example, the HV could service the
> hash misses directly walking the guest page tables).
>
But the guest page tables are software defined, no? That means the
interface will break if the page table format changes.
> But that's due in part to a design choice (whether it's a good one or
> not I'm not going to argue here) which favors huge reasonably static
> workloads where the hash is expected to contain all translations for
> everything.
>
What about when you have memory pressure? The hash will have to reflect
those pte_clear_flush_young(), no?
It seems horribly expensive.
> However, note that BookE (the embedded variant of the architecture) uses
> a different model for virtualization, including options in its latest
> variant for a HW logical->real translation (via a small dedicated TLB)
> and direct access to some TLB ops from the guest.
>
I'm somewhat familiar with it, yes.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-27 7:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-21 13:44 [PATCH 1/2] KVM: PPC: Add generic hpte management functions Alexander Graf
2010-06-21 13:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: PPC: Make use of hash based Shadow MMU Alexander Graf
2010-06-22 12:02 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: PPC: Add generic hpte management functions Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 12:04 ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-22 12:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 12:10 ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-22 12:12 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-22 12:14 ` Alexander Graf
2010-06-22 12:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-26 22:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-27 7:53 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-27 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-30 13:18 [PATCH 0/2] Faster MMU lookups for Book3s v3 Alexander Graf
2010-06-30 13:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: PPC: Add generic hpte management functions Alexander Graf
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