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From: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/34] Make kernel build deterministic
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 11:07:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D9C2D56.70700@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1302031447.2608.41.camel@koala>

On 5.4.2011 21:24, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 08:49 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 04:58:47PM +0200, Michal Marek wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this series makes it possible to build bit-identical kernel image and
>>> modules from identical sources. Of course the build is already
>>> deterministic in terms of behavior of the code, but the various
>>> timestamps embedded in the object files make it hard to compare two
>>> builds, for instance to verify that a makefile cleanup didn't
>>> accidentally change something. A prime example is /proc/config.gz, which
>>> has both a timestamp in the gzip header and a timestamp in the payload
>>> data. With this series applied, a script like this will produce
>>> identical kernels each time:
>>
>> Very nice stuff.  Do you want to take the individual patches through one
>> of your trees, or do you mind if the subsystem maintainers take them
>> through theirs?
> 
> But unfortunately, it is very easy to break this and for sure it'll be
> broken very soon.

I'm not so pessimistic. 34 patches and 57 files might sound like a lot,
but given that this has been accumulating since day one, the cleanup
should last for some time.


> So additionally, I'd suggest:
> 1. Instrument checkpatch.pl and make it err or warn on timestamps.

This is patch 34/34 in this series: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/5/198


> 2. Probably instrument linux-next to rise a warning when people break
>    this.

I'm not sure if Stephen has that much spare time, and I don't think it
is necessary. I think the checkpatch check is sufficient and I'll check
myself occasionally.

Michal

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-04-06  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-05 14:58 [PATCH 00/34] Make kernel build deterministic Michal Marek
2011-04-05 14:58 ` [PATCH 03/34] powerpc: Call gzip with -n Michal Marek
2011-04-05 14:58 ` [PATCH 05/34] powerpc: Use the deterministic mode of ar Michal Marek
2011-04-05 15:49 ` [PATCH 00/34] Make kernel build deterministic Greg KH
2011-04-05 18:16   ` James Bottomley
2011-04-05 18:29     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-04-05 18:44       ` Greg KH
2011-04-05 19:24   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-04-06  8:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-04-06  9:07     ` Michal Marek [this message]
2011-04-06  9:25       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-04-06  9:23   ` Michal Marek
2011-04-06  9:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-05 15:22 ` [PATCH v2] powerpc: Use the deterministic mode of ar Michal Marek

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