From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/45] rcu: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:39:40 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CAF624.6060004@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130625220026.GG3828@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 06/26/2013 03:30 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 01:57:55AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>> Once stop_machine() is gone from the CPU offline path, we won't be able
>> to depend on disabling preemption to prevent CPUs from going offline
>> from under us.
>>
>> In RCU code, rcu_implicit_dynticks_qs() checks if a CPU is offline,
>> while being protected by a spinlock. Use the get/put_online_cpus_atomic()
>> APIs to prevent CPUs from going offline, while invoking from atomic context.
>
> I am not completely sure that this is needed. Here is a (quite possibly
> flawed) argument for its not being needed:
>
> o rcu_gp_init() holds off CPU-hotplug operations during
> grace-period initialization. Therefore, RCU will avoid
> looking for quiescent states from CPUs that were offline
> (and thus in an extended quiescent state) at the beginning
> of the grace period.
>
> o If force_qs_rnp() is looking for a quiescent state from
> a given CPU, and if it senses that CPU as being offline,
> then even without synchronization we know that the CPU
> was offline some time during the current grace period.
>
> After all, it was online at the beginning of the grace
> period (otherwise, we would not be looking at it at all),
> and our later sampling of its state must have therefore
> happened after the start of the grace period. Given that
> the grace period has not yet ended, it also has to happened
> before the end of the grace period.
>
> o Therefore, we should be able to sample the offline state
> without synchronization.
>
Thanks a lot for explaining the synchronization design in detail, Paul!
I agree that get/put_online_cpus_atomic() is not necessary here.
Regarding the debug checks under CONFIG_DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU, to avoid
false-positives, I'm thinking of introducing a few _nocheck() variants,
on a case-by-case basis, like cpu_is_offline_nocheck() (useful here in RCU)
and for_each_online_cpu_nocheck() (useful in percpu-counter code, as
pointed out by Tejun Heo). These fine synchronization details are kinda
hard to encapsulate in that debug logic, so we can use the _nocheck()
variants here to avoid getting splats when running with DEBUG_HOTPLUG_CPU
enabled.
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-26 14:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-25 20:25 [PATCH v2 00/45] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug, part 1 Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/45] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/45] CPU hotplug: Clarify the usage of different synchronization APIs Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/45] Documentation, CPU hotplug: Recommend usage of get/put_online_cpus_atomic() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/45] CPU hotplug: Add infrastructure to check lacking hotplug synchronization Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/45] CPU hotplug: Protect set_cpu_online() to avoid false-positives Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/45] CPU hotplug: Sprinkle debugging checks to catch locking bugs Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/45] CPU hotplug: Expose the new debug config option Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/45] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/45] smp: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/45] sched/core: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/45] migration: Use raw_spin_lock/unlock since interrupts are already disabled Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/45] sched/fair: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/45] timer: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/45] sched/rt: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:27 ` [PATCH v2 15/45] rcu: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 22:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-26 14:09 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2013-06-26 14:29 ` David Laight
2013-06-26 14:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-26 14:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 15:21 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-26 15:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-26 17:29 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-26 18:28 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 21:34 ` Tejun Heo
2013-06-27 6:53 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 18:22 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-27 8:54 ` David Laight
2013-06-27 10:06 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 14:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-26 18:18 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 14:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-06-25 20:28 ` [PATCH v2 16/45] tick-broadcast: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:28 ` [PATCH v2 17/45] time/clocksource: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:28 ` [PATCH v2 18/45] softirq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:28 ` [PATCH v2 19/45] irq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 20/45] net: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 21/45] block: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 22/45] percpu_counter: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 23/45] infiniband: ehca: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:29 ` [PATCH v2 24/45] [SCSI] fcoe: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 25/45] staging/octeon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 26/45] x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 27/45] perf/x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 28/45] KVM: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 8:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 29/45] kvm/vmx: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 7:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 8:06 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 8:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-26 8:41 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 8:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-25 20:30 ` [PATCH v2 30/45] x86/xen: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:31 ` [PATCH v2 31/45] alpha/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:31 ` [PATCH v2 32/45] blackfin/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:31 ` [PATCH v2 33/45] cris/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 34/45] hexagon/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 35/45] ia64: irq, perfmon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 36/45] ia64: smp, tlb: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 37/45] m32r: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:32 ` [PATCH v2 38/45] MIPS: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-26 13:39 ` Ralf Baechle
2013-06-27 7:08 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 39/45] mn10300: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 40/45] powerpc, irq: Use GFP_ATOMIC allocations in atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 41/45] powerpc: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 42/45] powerpc: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to avoid false-positive warning Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 43/45] sh: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:33 ` [PATCH v2 44/45] sparc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-06-25 20:34 ` [PATCH v2 45/45] tile: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
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