From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e23smtp07.au.ibm.com (e23smtp07.au.ibm.com [202.81.31.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "e23smtp07.au.ibm.com", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3906A2C0087 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:22:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from /spool/local by e23smtp07.au.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:10:36 +1000 Received: from d23relay05.au.ibm.com (d23relay05.au.ibm.com [9.190.235.152]) by d23dlp01.au.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5762CE804D for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:22:07 +1000 (EST) Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (d23av03.au.ibm.com [9.190.234.97]) by d23relay05.au.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id r5QI77OV4522360 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:07:07 +1000 Received: from d23av03.au.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d23av03.au.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id r5QIM5cp021622 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:22:06 +1000 Message-ID: <51CB307E.9050508@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:48:38 +0530 From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Laight Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 15/45] rcu: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline References: <20130625202452.16593.22810.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com> <20130625202755.16593.67819.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com> <20130625220026.GG3828@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <51CAF624.6060004@linux.vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Cc: peterz@infradead.org, fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, walken@google.com, mingo@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, rostedt@goodmis.org, namhyung@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, zhong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sbw@mit.edu, tj@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On 06/26/2013 07:59 PM, David Laight wrote: >> Once stop_machine() is gone from the CPU offline path, we won't be able >> to depend on disabling preemption to prevent CPUs from going offline >> from under us. > > Could you use an rcu-like sequence so that disabling pre-emption > would be enough? > > Something like rebuilding the cpu list, then forcing yourself > to run on all the cpu. > Certainly, and we had debated schemes similar to that (including schemes invoking synchronize_sched() itself) in earlier discussions. (But IIRC even those schemes required converting call-sites from preempt_disable() to get/put_online_cpus_atomic(), to properly synchronize). > That would be far less intrusive. > But that would increase the latency of hotplug operations like Paul pointed out, and that in turn is not good for use-cases such as suspend/resume, where we take all non-boot CPUs offline in a loop. (That would mean executing the above logic num_online_cpus() times!). So we started hunting for ideas that can make the hotplug writer side not only less intrusive, but also remain fast. That's how the later designs evolved. Regards, Srivatsa S. Bhat