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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: deepthi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	daniel.lezcano@linaro.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, tuukka.tikkanen@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cpuidle/menu: Fail cpuidle_idle_call() if no idle state is acceptable
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:07:32 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D4E93C.3050503@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52D4E07E.204@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 01/14/2014 12:30 PM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> On 01/14/2014 11:35 AM, Preeti U Murthy wrote:
>> On PowerPC, in a particular test scenario, all the cpu idle states were disabled.
>> Inspite of this it was observed that the idle state count of the shallowest
>> idle state, snooze, was increasing.
>>
>> This is because the governor returns the idle state index as 0 even in
>> scenarios when no idle state can be chosen. These scenarios could be when the
>> latency requirement is 0 or as mentioned above when the user wants to disable
>> certain cpu idle states at runtime. In the latter case, its possible that no
>> cpu idle state is valid because the suitable states were disabled
>> and the rest did not match the menu governor criteria to be chosen as the
>> next idle state.
>>
>> This patch adds the code to indicate that a valid cpu idle state could not be
>> chosen by the menu governor and reports back to arch so that it can take some
>> default action.
>>
> 
> That sounds fair enough. However, the "default" action of pseries idle loop
> (pseries_lpar_idle()) surprises me. It enters Cede, which is _deeper_ than doing
> a snooze! IOW, a user might "disable" cpuidle or set the PM_QOS_CPU_DMA_LATENCY
> to 0 hoping to prevent the CPUs from going to deep idle states, but then the
> machine would still end up going to Cede, even though that wont get reflected
> in the idle state counts. IMHO that scenario needs some thought as well...
> 

I checked the git history and found that the default idle was changed (on purpose)
to cede the processor, in order to speed up booting.. Hmm..

commit 363edbe2614aa90df706c0f19ccfa2a6c06af0be
Author: Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:   Fri Sep 6 00:25:06 2013 +0530

    powerpc: Default arch idle could cede processor on pseries


Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-14  6:05 [PATCH] cpuidle/menu: Fail cpuidle_idle_call() if no idle state is acceptable Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-14  6:16 ` Deepthi Dharwar
2014-01-14  7:00 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2014-01-14  7:37   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2014-01-14 11:02     ` Preeti U Murthy
2014-01-14  8:00   ` Deepthi Dharwar
2014-01-14  8:25   ` Preeti U Murthy

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