From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Tabi Timur-B04825 <B04825@freescale.com>
Cc: McClintock Matthew-B29882 <B29882@freescale.com>,
Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
Gala Kumar-B11780 <B11780@freescale.com>,
"paulus@samba.org" <paulus@samba.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc/85xx: disable timebase synchronization under the hypervisor
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:50:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53807ffa0f2275ffbf492a6d8905dc32@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E03F8C1.60706@freescale.com>
(context put back:)
>> But does that mean that a guest should never be allowed to modify a
>> virtualized
>> timebase register, even if the hypervisor can support it?
>
> The book3e mtspr writeup doesn't appear to specify the behavior when
> writing to a read-only SPR, so perhaps you could argue that something
> other
> than a no-op is implementation-specific behavior.
>> v2.06 III-E 9.2.1:
>> "Writing the Time Base is hypervisor privileged."
>>
>> v2.06 III-E 2.1:
>> "If a hypervisor-privileged register is accessed in the guest
>> supervisor
>> state (MSR[GS PR] = 0b10), an Embedded Hypervisor Privilege exception
>> occurs."
>>
>> (v2.06 III-E 5.4.1, the big SPR table, also shows the TB regs (for
>> writing,
>> i.e. 284 and 285) to be hypervisor privileged. Consistency, hurray
>> :-) )
>
> To me, all this means that a guest cannot write to the actual timebase
> register.
It also means that the hypervisor gets a trap when a guest tries to do
this.
> I'm not interpreting this to mean that a hypervisor can't
> virtualize the timebase and allow a guest to read/write a virtual
> timebase
> register, so that it thinks it's writing to the real hardware timebase
> register.
Yes, a hypervisor can do this. The behaviour of the hardware is not
implementation-specific (modulo bugs ;-) ); when a guest tries to write
to the timebase, the hypervisor gets a trap. The hypervisor can then
do whatever it wants with it.
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-24 3:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-14 23:04 [PATCH] powerpc/85xx: disable timebase synchronization under the hypervisor Timur Tabi
2011-06-14 23:14 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-14 23:15 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-14 23:25 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-15 1:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-15 2:10 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2011-06-15 2:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-22 11:44 ` Kumar Gala
2011-06-22 14:55 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-23 17:22 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-23 17:33 ` Timur Tabi
2011-06-23 17:48 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-24 2:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2011-06-24 2:38 ` Tabi Timur-B04825
2011-06-24 3:50 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2011-06-24 15:16 ` Scott Wood
2011-06-24 23:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-27 13:35 ` Kumar Gala
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