From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: POWER: Unexpected fault when writing to brk-allocated memory
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:32:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <546d4155-5b7c-6dba-b642-29c103e336bc@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d52581f4-8ca4-5421-0862-3098031e29a8@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 11/06/2017 09:30 AM, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> On 11/06/2017 01:55 PM, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 09:11:37 +0100
>> Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/06/2017 07:47 AM, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>>>> "You get < 128TB unless explicitly requested."
>>>>
>>>> Simple, reasonable, obvious rule. Avoids breaking apps that store
>>>> some bits in the top of pointers (provided that memory allocator
>>>> userspace libraries also do the right thing).
>>>
>>> So brk would simplify fail instead of crossing the 128 TiB threshold?
>>
>> Yes, that was the intention and that's what x86 seems to do.
>>
>>>
>>> glibc malloc should cope with that and switch to malloc, but this code
>>> path is obviously less well-tested than the regular way.
>>
>> Switch to mmap() I guess you meant?
Yes, sorry.
>> powerpc has a couple of bugs in corner cases, so those should be fixed
>> according to intended policy for stable kernels I think.
>>
>> But I question the policy. Just seems like an ugly and ineffective wart.
>> Exactly for such cases as this -- behaviour would change from run to run
>> depending on your address space randomization for example! In case your
>> brk happens to land nicely on 128TB then the next one would succeed.
>
> Why ? It should not change between run to run. We limit the free
> area search range based on hint address. So we should get consistent
> results across run. even if we changed the context.addr_limit.
The size of the gap to the 128 TiB limit varies between runs because of
ASLR. So some runs would use brk alone, others would use brk + malloc.
That's not really desirable IMHO.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-06 8:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-03 17:05 POWER: Unexpected fault when writing to brk-allocated memory Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 12:18 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-05 12:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 12:54 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-05 14:50 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 6:18 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-06 6:47 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-06 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 8:25 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-06 8:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-06 8:32 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-11-06 10:20 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 5:07 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 8:15 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 9:24 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 11:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 11:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 11:26 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 11:44 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 13:05 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 13:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-08 6:08 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 6:18 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 11:56 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 12:28 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 13:33 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 13:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-07 14:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-09 17:15 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-09 19:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-10 1:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-10 12:08 ` David Laight
2017-11-11 10:30 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-08 4:56 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 8:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-06 8:10 ` Florian Weimer
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