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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Cedric Le Goater <clg@fr.ibm.com>
Cc: Stewart Smith <stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
	Neelesh Gupta <neelegup@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	skiboot@lists.ozlabs.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add DTS support
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:03:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54E865EC.60101@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54E83051.9080107@fr.ibm.com>

On 02/20/2015 11:14 PM, Cedric Le Goater wrote:
> On 02/21/2015 12:52 AM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On 02/20/2015 12:15 PM, Cedric Le Goater wrote:
>>> On 02/20/2015 05:52 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 04:07:34PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
>>>>> Hello !
>>>>>
>>>>> These patches rework the ibmpowernv driver to support the new device
>>>>> tree as proposed by this patchset on the skiboot mailing list :
>>>>>
>>>>>     https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/skiboot/2015-February/000457.html
>>>>>
>>>>> They are based on Linux 3.19 and were tested on IBM Power and Open Power
>>>>> systems running trusty.
>>>>>
>>>>> The main issue is that the new device tree is incompatible with the
>>>>> previous ibmpowernv drivers. The consequence is no powernv sensors
>>>>> on systems with such a opal/linux configuration.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think that would be acceptable. There must be lots of such
>>>> systems out there. Why does it have to be incompatible ?
>>>> Can't it support both the old and new versions ?
>>>
>>> I should have provided more explanation in the Linux patchset. Sorry
>>> for that. Here is the rationale behind this brutal code change.
>>>
>>> The initial ibmpowernv driver was designed in the early days of the
>>> powernv platform and the device tree it is using to expose the sensors
>>> has some limitations that makes it difficult to add new ones. The current
>>> layout of the device tree is also tightly coupled to IBM Power systems
>>> and their service processor (FSP). Open Power systems are different and
>>> need a different solution.
>>>
>>> It is to get more sensors out the P8 (and there are quite a few) that
>>> the OPAL patchset [1] proposes a new device tree. On the Linux side, it
>>> feels simpler to make a jump forward and break the compatibility than
>>> to maintain multiple branches of code just to keep alive an early v1
>>> of the ibmpowernv driver.
>>>
>>
>> Would it possibly be appropriate to write a different driver for the new
>> device tree ?
>
> Sure. That is an option.
>
> There are no conflicts between the trees so we can live with two drivers
> using the same sensors/ root node. With time we will deprecate the initial
> one.
>
You lost me a bit. Are you saying you are going to replace the devicetree
properties with something that is incompatible but retain the same
compatible properties ? If so, how do you expect this to work ?
How do you expect to be able to determine which version of devicetree
is loaded, and thus which driver is needed ?

I'll have to understand this way better. The link above doesn't explain
what the differences are, nor how the driver is supposed to know what
to do.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-21 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1423117857-32759-1-git-send-email-clg@fr.ibm.com>
2015-02-20 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add DTS support Cédric Le Goater
2015-02-20 16:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 20:15     ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-02-20 23:52       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-21  7:14         ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-02-21 11:03           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-02-23 10:54             ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-02-20 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] powerpc/powernv: Check OPAL sensor calls exist Cédric Le Goater
2015-02-20 16:53   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-02-20 20:18     ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-02-24  4:54   ` Michael Ellerman
2015-02-25 17:28     ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-02-20 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] powerpc/powernv: handle OPAL_SUCCESS return in opal_sensor_read Cédric Le Goater
2015-02-20 15:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add DTS support Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 0/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) remove dependency on OPAL index Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19  4:05   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 1/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) replace AMBIENT_TEMP by TEMP Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 2/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a get_sensor_type() routine Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 3/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a convert_opal_attr_name() routine Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19  3:58   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 4/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) change create_hwmon_attr_name() prototype Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19  4:02   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-18 15:47 ` [PATCH 5/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) do not use the OPAL index for hwmon attribute names Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) remove dependency on OPAL index Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-20 15:26   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-20 16:52     ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-04-01 10:15   ` [PATCH 0/4] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add DTS support Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-01 10:15   ` [PATCH 1/4] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a helper routine create_hwmon_attr Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-01 10:15   ` [PATCH 2/4] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add support for the new device tree Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-01 10:15   ` [PATCH 3/4] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a label attribute Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-01 10:15   ` [PATCH 4/4] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) pretty print labels Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-03 15:49     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-04-07 14:42       ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-04-07 14:45         ` Cédric Le Goater
2015-04-07 16:44           ` Guenter Roeck
2015-04-07 18:03             ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-04-07 19:22               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-04-08  6:57                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-04-07 20:22               ` [Skiboot] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) replace AMBIENT_TEMP by TEMP Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a get_sensor_type() routine Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) add a convert_opal_attr_name() routine Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) change create_hwmon_attr_name() prototype Cédric Le Goater
2015-03-20  8:06   ` Cedric Le Goater
2015-03-20 15:27     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-03-19 17:44 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] hwmon: (ibmpowernv) do not use the OPAL index for hwmon attribute names Cédric Le Goater

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