From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuahkh@osg.samsung.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:16:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55B63D37.20303@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150727133555.GA17133@akamai.com>
On 07/27/2015 03:35 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>
>> On 07/24/2015 11:28 PM, Eric B Munson wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> Changes from V4:
>>> Drop all architectures for new sys call entries except x86[_64] and MIPS
>>> Drop munlock2 and munlockall2
>>> Make VM_LOCKONFAULT a modifier to VM_LOCKED only to simplify book keeping
>>> Adjust tests to match
>>
>> Hi, thanks for considering my suggestions. Well, I do hope there
>> were correct as API's are hard and I'm no API expert. But since
>> API's are also impossible to change after merging, I'm sorry but
>> I'll keep pestering for one last thing. Thanks again for persisting,
>> I do believe it's for the good thing!
>>
>> The thing is that I still don't like that one has to call
>> mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED) to get the equivalent of the old mlock(). Why
>> is that flag needed? We have two modes of locking now, and v5 no
>> longer treats them separately in vma flags. But having two flags
>> gives us four possible combinations, so two of them would serve
>> nothing but to confuse the programmer IMHO. What will mlock2()
>> without flags do? What will mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED | MLOCK_ONFAULT) do?
>> (Note I haven't studied the code yet, as having agreed on the API
>> should come first. But I did suggest documenting these things more
>> thoroughly too...)
>> OK I checked now and both cases above seem to return EINVAL.
>>
>> So about the only point I see in MLOCK_LOCKED flag is parity with
>> MAP_LOCKED for mmap(). But as Kirill said (and me before as well)
>> MAP_LOCKED is broken anyway so we shouldn't twist the rest just of
>> the API to keep the poor thing happier in its misery.
>>
>> Also note that AFAICS you don't have MCL_LOCKED for mlockall() so
>> there's no full parity anyway. But please don't fix that by adding
>> MCL_LOCKED :)
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>
> I have an MLOCK_LOCKED flag because I prefer an interface to be
> explicit.
I think it's already explicit enough that the user calls mlock2(), no?
He obviously wants the range mlocked. An optional flag says that there
should be no pre-fault.
> The caller of mlock2() will be required to fill in the flags
> argument regardless.
I guess users not caring about MLOCK_ONFAULT will continue using plain
mlock() without flags anyway.
I can drop the MLOCK_LOCKED flag with 0 being the
> value for LOCKED, but I thought it easier to make clear what was going
> on at any call to mlock2(). If user space defines a MLOCK_LOCKED that
> happens to be 0, I suppose that would be okay.
Yeah that would remove the weird 4-states-of-which-2-are-invalid problem
I mentioned, but at the cost of glibc wrapper behaving differently than
the kernel syscall itself. For little gain.
> We do actually have an MCL_LOCKED, we just call it MCL_CURRENT. Would
> you prefer that I match the name in mlock2() (add MLOCK_CURRENT
> instead)?
Hm it's similar but not exactly the same, because MCL_FUTURE is not the
same as MLOCK_ONFAULT :) So MLOCK_CURRENT would be even more confusing.
Especially if mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) is OK, but
mlock2(MLOCK_LOCKED | MLOCK_ONFAULT) is invalid.
> Finally, on the question of MAP_LOCKONFAULT, do you just dislike
> MAP_LOCKED and do not want to see it extended, or is this a NAK on the
> set if that patch is included. I ask because I have to spin a V6 to get
> the MLOCK flag declarations right, but I would prefer not to do a V7+.
> If this is a NAK with, I can drop that patch and rework the tests to
> cover without the mmap flag. Otherwise I want to keep it, I have an
> internal user that would like to see it added.
I don't want to NAK that patch if you think it's useful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-27 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-24 21:28 [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Eric B Munson
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 2/7] mm: mlock: Add new mlock system call Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 6:43 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 4/7] mm: mlock: Add mlock flags to enable VM_LOCKONFAULT usage Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 7:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-24 21:28 ` [PATCH V5 5/7] mm: mmap: Add mmap flag to request VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 7:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 13:41 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:03 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-07-27 14:11 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 9:08 ` [PATCH V5 0/7] Allow user to request memory to be locked on page fault Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-27 13:35 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 14:16 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-07-27 14:54 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-27 15:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 11:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-28 11:23 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 13:49 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-28 15:10 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-07-28 18:06 ` Eric B Munson
2015-07-29 10:45 ` Michal Hocko
2015-07-29 10:49 ` Vlastimil Babka
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