From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@gmail.com>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
Shengjiu Wang <shengjiu.wang@nxp.com>,
vkoul@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Xiubo.Lee@gmail.com, festevam@gmail.com, nicoleotsuka@gmail.com,
lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] ALSA: compress: add Sample Rate Converter codec support
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:58:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55a82ba3-1c33-4d1b-9f5f-8af33d76222f@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA+D8APSrH_pum6Cm0YxDzWMs4Roi=h1hkBjPMfXocXt7z4oVA@mail.gmail.com>
On 8/14/24 13:12, Shengjiu Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 5:40 PM Pierre-Louis Bossart
> <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Yes, to go further, I think we can use SND_AUDIOCODEC_PCM, then
>>> the SRC type will be dropped.
>>
>> sounds good.
>>
>>> But my understanding of the control means the .set_metadata() API, right?
>>> As I said, the output rate, output format, and ratio modifier are applied to
>>> the instances of ASRC, which is the snd_compr_stream in driver.
>>> so only the .set_metadata() API can be used for these purposes.
>>
>> Humm, this is more controversial.
>>
>> The term 'metadata' really referred to known information present in
>> headers or additional ID3 tags and not in the compressed file itself.
>> The .set_metadata was assumed to be called ONCE before decoding.
>>
>> But here you have a need to update the ratio modifier on a regular basis
>> to compensate for the drift. This isn't what this specific callback was
>> designed for. We could change and allow this callback to be used
>> multiple times, but then this could create problems for existing
>> implementations which cannot deal with modified metadata on the fly.
>
> .set_metadata can be called multi times now, no need to change currently.
Not really, this set_metadata() callback is used only for gapless
transitions between tracks, see fcplay.c in tinycompress.
And now I am really confused because tinycompress uses an IOCTL directly:
metadata.key = SNDRV_COMPRESS_ENCODER_PADDING;
metadata.value[0] = mdata->encoder_padding;
if (ioctl(compress->fd, SNDRV_COMPRESS_SET_METADATA, &metadata))
Whereas you want to use the ops callback directly from the control layer?
What would present a userspace program from using the ioctl directly
then? In that case, why do we need the control? I must be missing something.
>> And then there's the problem of defining a 'key' for the metadata. the
>> definition of the key is a u32, so there's plenty of space for different
>> implementations, but a collision is possible. We'd need an agreement on
>> how to allocate keys to different solutions without changing the header
>> file for every implementation.
>
> Can we define a private space for each case? For example the key larger
> than 0x80000000 is private, each driver can define it by themself?
that would be a possibility indeed - provided that the opens above are
straightened out.
>> It sounds like we'd need a 'runtime params' callback - unless there's a
>> better trick to tie the control and compress layers?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-14 11:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-06 10:26 [RFC PATCH 0/6] ASoC: fsl: add memory to memory function for ASRC Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] ALSA: compress: add Sample Rate Converter codec support Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 11:16 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-06 11:39 ` Jeff Brower
2024-08-08 9:17 ` Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-08 11:27 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-08 12:02 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-08 12:19 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-08 15:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-09 7:19 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-09 10:14 ` Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-09 12:52 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-09 14:00 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-09 19:20 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-12 10:24 ` Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-12 13:31 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-12 13:43 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-14 2:22 ` Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-14 9:40 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2024-08-14 11:12 ` Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-14 11:58 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2024-08-14 14:48 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-09 13:51 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] ASoC: fsl_asrc: define functions for memory to memory usage Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] ASoC: fsl_easrc: " Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] ASoC: fsl_asrc_m2m: Add memory to memory function Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] ASoC: fsl_asrc: register m2m platform device Shengjiu Wang
2024-08-06 10:26 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] ASoC: fsl_easrc: " Shengjiu Wang
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