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From: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Cc: mikey@neuling.org, sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dja@axtens.net
Subject: Re: [1/5] powerpc/perf: Drop the branch sample when 'from' cannot be fetched
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 14:33:22 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <560BA55A.70309@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B6F225.4070902@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 07/28/2015 08:38 AM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 07/27/2015 09:49 AM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2015-30-06 at 08:20:27 UTC, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>>> >> BHRB (Branch History Rolling Buffer) is a rolling buffer. Hence we
>>> >> might end up in a situation where we have read one target address
>>> >> but when we try to read the next entry indicating the from address
>>> >> of the target address, the buffer just overflows. In this case, the
>>> >> captured from address will be zero which indicates the end of the
>>> >> buffer.
>> > 
>> > Right. But with SMT8 the size of the buffer is very small, so we will actually
>> > hit this case somewhat often. When we originally wrote this we decided it was
>> > better to get some information, ie. the from address, than no information at
>> > all.
> You are right. But practically as of now we are not using this kind of
> (from, 0) branch entries any where as a special case. More over for
> certain kind of workloads which has a small code and a few branches,
> the chances of getting this kind of branch (from, 0) increases a lot
> making them probably one of the highest percentage entries in the final
> perf report. Now with this change of code, the workload session might
> have overall less number of branch entries, but in my opinion represents
> more accurate branch profile of the given workload in percentage wise.
> 
>> > 
>>> >> 	This patch drops the entire branch record which would have
>>> >> otherwise confused the user space tools.
>> > 
>> > Does it confuse the tools? Can you show me before/after output from perf?
> The word 'confuse' might be little misleading. But the point as
> explained above that the relative branch percentage profile of
> certain workloads might be distorted and that I believe is true.
> Also branch entries like "from ----> 0" in the perf report might
> be confusing to users who dont expect to see this kind of entries
> in the final perf report and will never get into "perf report -D"
> to figure out what really happened.

Hey Michael,

As I had explained earlier, is not it a good idea to drop these
kind of branch records from the final output ? I will request
consideration of this patch along with others in the series.

I have dropped the following patch as you had pointed out.

[3/5] powerpc/perf: Replace last usage of get_cpu_var with this_cpu_ptr

Also did not receive any comments or thoughts on the V10 of the
BHRB SW branch filter patch series posted couple of months back.
Does it look good ?

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.ppc.embedded/83206

After dropping the above patch and excluding the one which
had already merged mainline, rebased the entire series and
it still works fine on LE and BE kernel as of today. I will
be sending them soon.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-30  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-30  8:20 [PATCH 0/5] BHRB fixes, improvements and cleanups Anshuman Khandual
2015-06-30  8:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] powerpc/perf: Drop the branch sample when 'from' cannot be fetched Anshuman Khandual
2015-07-27  4:19   ` [1/5] " Michael Ellerman
2015-07-28  3:08     ` Anshuman Khandual
2015-09-30  9:03       ` Anshuman Khandual [this message]
2015-09-30 10:46         ` Michael Ellerman
2015-06-30  8:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] powerpc/perf: Change type of the bhrb_users variable Anshuman Khandual
2015-08-03  1:35   ` [2/5] " Michael Ellerman
2015-06-30  8:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] powerpc/perf: Replace last usage of get_cpu_var with this_cpu_ptr Anshuman Khandual
2015-07-27  5:15   ` [3/5] " Michael Ellerman
2015-07-28  3:37     ` Anshuman Khandual
2015-06-30  8:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] powerpc/perf: Change name & type of 'pred' in power_pmu_bhrb_read Anshuman Khandual
2015-07-29  3:25   ` [4/5] " Michael Ellerman
2015-07-29  8:13     ` Anshuman Khandual
2015-06-30  8:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] powerpc/perf: Re organize PMU branch filter processing on POWER8 Anshuman Khandual

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