From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Michal Suchánek" <msuchanek@suse.de>
Cc: "Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)" <chleroy@kernel.org>,
Christian Zigotzky <chzigotzky@xenosoft.de>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"R.T.Dickinson" <rtd2@xtra.co.nz>,
hypexed@yahoo.com.au, mad skateman <madskateman@gmail.com>,
Christian Zigotzky <info@xenosoft.de>
Subject: Re: [Linux PPC] Disable PREEMPT
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2026 22:52:59 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ed38c3e-4aaa-4a91-9eda-e31d09b44abc@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aplZNFMJUkfs-BFs@kunlun.suse.cz>
>> If possible run against current upstream and share the results.
>
> https://github.com/openSUSE/kernel-source/blob/6824496d1801f73def615dca8794202eeb7b0d86/config/ppc64le/default
>
> [ 472.091531][ T6181] Kernel panic - not syncing: stack-protector: Kernel stack is corrupted in: kvmhv_run_single_vcpu+0x19d4/0x1b50 [kvm_hv]
> [ 472.091598][ T6181] CPU: 29 UID: 107 PID: 6181 Comm: CPU 112/KVM Not tainted 7.2.2-5.g6824496-default #1 PREEMPT(full) openSUSE Tumbleweed (unreleased) 61871a5f06863b4006f5ef27cd9f18e8a7a2edad
> [ 472.091612][ T6181] Hardware name: IBM,9824-42A Power11 (architected) 0x820200 0xf000007 of:IBM,FW1110.20 (OB1110_130) hv:phyp pSeries
> [ 472.091624][ T6181] Call Trace:
> [ 472.091630][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb680] [c00000000134ce90] dump_stack_lvl+0x84/0xc0 (unreliable)
> [ 472.091653][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb6b0] [c00000000022e7c8] vpanic+0x324/0x5e4
> [ 472.091666][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb760] [c00000000022eac4] do_panic_on_target_cpu+0x0/0x2c
> [ 472.091677][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb780] [c0000000013c1ff8] __stack_chk_fail+0x48/0x60
> [ 472.091689][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb7f0] [c00800001aae219c] kvmhv_run_single_vcpu+0x19d4/0x1b50 [kvm_hv]
> [ 472.091712][ T6181] [c00000000fdfb940] [c00800001aae24b4] kvmppc_vcpu_run_hv+0x19c/0x12f0 [kvm_hv]
> [ 472.091732][ T6181] [c00000000fdfba10] [c00800001aeeed18] kvmppc_vcpu_run+0x30/0x48 [kvm]
> [ 472.091779][ T6181] [c00000000fdfba30] [c00800001aee9ef4] kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run+0x35c/0x4a0 [kvm]
> [ 472.091813][ T6181] [c00000000fdfbac0] [c00800001aedaac4] kvm_vcpu_ioctl+0x1ac/0xad8 [kvm]
> [ 472.091844][ T6181] [c00000000fdfbca0] [c0000000007f1244] sys_ioctl+0x374/0x1060
> [ 472.091857][ T6181] [c00000000fdfbdb0] [c00000000002f7f8] system_call_exception+0x188/0x430
> [ 472.091871][ T6181] [c00000000fdfbe50] [c00000000000cfdc] system_call_vectored_common+0x15c/0x2ec
> [ 472.091886][ T6181] ---- interrupt: 3000 at 0x7fffb5565fac
> [ 472.091896][ T6181] NIP: 00007fffb5565fac LR: 00007fffb5565fac CTR: 0000000000000000
> [ 472.091904][ T6181] REGS: c00000000fdfbe80 TRAP: 3000 Not tainted (7.2.2-5.g6824496-default)
> [ 472.091911][ T6181] MSR: 800000000280f033 <SF,VEC,VSX,EE,PR,FP,ME,IR,DR,RI,LE> CR: 42044402 XER: 00000000
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] IRQMASK: 0
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR00: 0000000000000036 00007fbfa77ed7a0 00007fffb5677100 00000000000000fa
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR04: 000000002000ae80 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR08: 00000000000000fa 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR12: 0000000000000000 00007fbfa77f5ec0 000000014676f000 00007fbfa77ee7c0
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR16: 000000014674e8d0 00007fbfa77eeec0 00007fbfa77eeec0 fffffffffffffff7
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR20: 00007fffb71210d0 0000000000000001 00007fbfa77eeec0 0000000000000000
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR24: 00007fbfa77ed8e8 0000000105971428 000000002000ae80 0000000105f77a70
> [ 472.091938][ T6181] GPR28: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 000000002000ae80 000000014674f000
> [ 472.092020][ T6181] NIP [00007fffb5565fac] 0x7fffb5565fac
> [ 472.092027][ T6181] LR [00007fffb5565fac] 0x7fffb5565fac
> [ 472.092033][ T6181] ---- interrupt: 3000
> [ 472.098256][ T6181] pstore: backend (nvram) writing error (-1)
>
> This is the host, cannot run the kernel as guest because it fails to boot most
> of the time inside KVM.
>
>>
>>> Nonethless, there are quite a few platforms. Originally no preemption
>>> was the only option, and that's the reason why many people run that.
>>> It's the conservative, known working option. And that's the reason a lot
>>> of platfrom code does not get tested with more aggressive preemtion
>>> models, and never gets fixed to work with them.
>>>
>>
>> Full preemption has been there for many years!.
>
> Possible for years, forced only recently.
>
>> Lazy is not that aggressive compared to that.
>>
>>> Simply disabling the no preemtion option does not make the platform code
>>> ready.
>>>
>>
>> Let's understand your crash case. Let's see where it is going wrong. I am suspecting
>> it is some wrong usage of preemption api rather than arch can't support preemption.
>
> Very likely some wrong use of the preemption API by the arch code, or no
> use where it should have been used. It did not matter so long as people
> could run their no preempt configs and ignore the problem.
>
> Thanks
Friendly LLM analysis says preemption is enabled too early and before
completing kvmppc_handle_exit_hv() / kvmppc_handle_nested_exit()
Below is ONLY a speculation and completely UNTESTED.
Maybe worth a try.
---
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c b/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
index 0409ac9e7b31..78d2b0618887 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/kvm/book3s_hv.c
@@ -5049,8 +5049,6 @@ int kvmhv_run_single_vcpu(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 time_limit,
powerpc_local_irq_pmu_restore(flags);
- preempt_enable();
-
/*
* cancel pending decrementer exception if DEC is now positive, or if
* entering a nested guest in which case the decrementer is now owned
@@ -5072,6 +5070,8 @@ int kvmhv_run_single_vcpu(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u64 time_limit,
}
vcpu->arch.ret = r;
+ preempt_enable();
+
if (is_kvmppc_resume_guest(r) && !kvmppc_vcpu_check_block(vcpu)) {
kvmppc_set_timer(vcpu);
>
> Michal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-03 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-14 14:02 [Linux PPC] KVM PR and KVM HV do not work if the kernel was compiled with PREEMPT Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 5:02 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-17 8:52 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 9:03 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-17 9:44 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 10:17 ` Madhavan Srinivasan
2026-02-17 10:26 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-17 11:34 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-21 5:30 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-23 3:45 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-23 16:48 ` [Linux PPC] 7.0-rc1: e500_mmu.c:923:26: error: assignment to 'struct tlbe_priv *' from incompatible pointer type 'struct tlbe_ref *' Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-23 18:07 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-23 19:38 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-23 22:40 ` Kees Cook
2026-02-24 6:30 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-24 7:18 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-25 5:54 ` [Linux PPC] Disable PREEMPT Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-25 6:23 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-02-25 7:16 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-02-25 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-26 5:37 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-02-26 13:24 ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-09-03 9:53 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 10:56 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 11:25 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 11:31 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 11:40 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 12:04 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-03 12:25 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 12:36 ` Harsh Prateek Bora
2026-09-03 12:55 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 15:17 ` Amit Machhiwal
2026-09-03 13:28 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-04 7:39 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-03 17:22 ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-09-04 7:35 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-04 9:04 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-10 8:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 10:41 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-10 11:29 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 12:16 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-11 17:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-04 8:55 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-04 9:20 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-04 9:24 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-04 9:34 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-05 13:07 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-07 8:50 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-07 11:32 ` Christian Zigotzky
2026-09-10 8:54 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 10:31 ` Michal Suchánek
2026-09-10 11:31 ` Michal Suchánek
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