From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-deletions] net: remove unused ATM protocols and legacy ATM device drivers
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 13:06:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f7f93d389a0d209886a34898badd7d59908fe0f.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU96F_42faeqNzDwaXks7mFrLrkPSJB_QTwxEn9HmVWpQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2026-04-21 at 13:57 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Herbert,
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 at 13:51, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 10:26:18AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > I suspect they don't have a huge amount of interest in the Solos any
> > > more, or the Geode-based SBC they sold with two of them on-board. But
> > > OpenWrt does still support them, and I even have one here (although no
> > > ADSL line to test it with). They were briefly popular as fully Linux-
> > > supported ADSL routers.
> >
> > ADSL is history, it only ever made sense in rich countries where
> > physical copper cables were pre-installed in homes. While rich
> > countries have moved to fibre, the rest of the world won't use
> > ADSL either because there is no copper cable to begin with. So
> > it's actually cheaper to just lay a fibre cable for a new install.
>
> I am afraid the move to fibre hasn't been completed yet.
> ADSL (VDSL2?) is still being used.
VSDL is different, and isn't ATM-based. But even ADSL is still in use;
in the UK some rural areas haven't got fibre yet.
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-21 2:19 [PATCH net-deletions] net: remove unused ATM protocols and legacy ATM device drivers Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-21 9:26 ` David Woodhouse
2026-04-21 11:49 ` Herbert Xu
2026-04-21 11:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-04-21 12:06 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
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